-- Start log: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:01:25 pm ASI Meeting Server time --

Severy says, "Yup, so I noticed..."
rhodab follows Severy into the room
Severy says, "Ooh, I've got a follower! ;-)" Severy goes South.
rhodab goes South.
rhodab follows Severy
Severy has arrived.
rhodab has arrived.
rhodab follows Severy into the room
Severy laughs.
rhodab says, "funny"
Severy chuckles.
dcarson-1 says, "I was thinking that when I saw she used follow" rhodab
says, "what should I have used?" dcarson-1 says, "@join "
rhodab says, "Ah!"
Severy says, "Yup, Dana, I couldn't resist ;-)" rhodab says, "Sounds kinda
obscene, doesn't it?" Greg-1 arrives amidst thundering applause. Greg-1
rolls 1d5 = 2.
rhodab says, "uh oh"
dcarson-1 says, "its all that time in Vegas" Greg-1 says, "Sorry, it's a
compulsion." Severy says, "I thought you were succesfully resisting that
compulsion, Greg ;-)" Greg-1 says, "Though you won't find a lot of
five-sided dice in the casinos." Greg-1 says, "I think we're the Moon
Society tonight." Greg-1 says, "Has anyone heard anything from our Vice
President?" Severy says, "Hmm, not I, Greg"
Greg-1 says, "I can't stay on line very long tonight because I have to get
up with the dawn patrol for a flight to Iowa. I haven't even packed yet."
Scottyg has arrived.
Greg-1 says, "Welcome, Scotty."
dcarson-1 says, "not I either"
Scottyg says, "Thanks!"
Scottyg says, "And hello to everyone!"
Greg-1 says, "Do we have an agenda that doesn't involve GSA and NT servers,
Randall?" Severy says, "Only the same agenda as before" Severy says,
"Scotty, I guess we start with your neck of the woods, as usual..." Greg-1
says, "Hmmm ... maybe we should think up a shorter agenda that will get us
closer to whatever it is the Moon Society is trying to do. Which I think is
(1) set up for business, and (2) grow." dcarson-1 says, "Scottys been doing
good on 1)" rhodab says, "What a novel concept! :)" Scottyg says, "I keep
hacking away at it. Briefly, I'm still waiting for an answer on our latest
credit card effort," Scottyg says, "and the non-profit paperwork is coming
along nicely." Greg-1 says, "It's sort of like waiting to find out if we
have a new president." Greg-1 says, "That sounds like good news, Scotty."
Scottyg says, "I just need to update it with November's financial data and
do a couple of schedules." Greg-1 says, "Oh, on Saturday I'm supposed to
meet with the local chapter of the National Space Society at Iowa State
University." rhodab says, "In Iowa?"
Greg-1 says, "With the obvious goal of trying to talk them into starting a
Moon Society chapter." Scottyg says, "Oh, and Dana, we got the 71 posters
and need about 50 more." Greg-1 says, "Yes, Rhoda, that was where they
located Iowa State University, the last time I checked." dcarson-1 says,
"OK will send more"
rhodab says, "Just checking"
Greg-1 says, "Are we processing new memberships now?" dcarson-1 says, "we
have a Arizona State campus here in MD" Greg-1 says, "I'm not sure whether
that tells me more about Arizona or Maryland." Scottyg says, "Greg, we have
the processing split. LT is processing the credit card orders and Jennifer
is doing the rest, plus renewal mailings." rhodab says, "Does the need for
more posters indicate new members?" Greg-1 says, "(One might hope!)"
Severy says, "I have been seeing indications that there is a lot of
confusion at the moment about who is handling Moon Society membership
questions" rhodab says, "121 new members?"
Greg-1 says, "Indications, Randall?"
Scottyg says, "We still haven't sent out posters for the batch of members
from the conference. I think that needed close to 100." Greg-1 says,
"Yoicks."
rhodab says, "Oh."
Severy says, "A number of questions have been sent to
webmaster@moonsociety.org almost as a last resort complaining that
questions to other addresses went unanswered for long periods of time"
rhodab says, "Not good!"
Scottyg says, "Randall, I think you're right. Who IS handling membership
questions?" Greg-1 says, "How big a number?"
Severy says, "More than one, but I don't remember exactly how many" Greg-1
says, "If someone writes to membership@moonsociety.org, who gets that
mail?" Severy says, "It looks like Candace gets it" Greg-1 says, "I would
think that Jennifer would be the person most able to answer such queries."
Scottyg says, "I think this is a policy question...Do we want a non-member
answering those queries?" Severy says, "That may be part of the problem"
dcarson-1 says, "if the nonmember is processing memberships their the best
source for info, maybe a cc to someone else just in case" rhodab says,
"Isn't the point that they get answered?" Severy says, "I've always been
nervous that membership@moonsociety.org just went to one person..."
dcarson-1 says, "so add another person, and maybe a logging function?"
rhodab says, "I can go to more than one person, but one person could/should
be responsible for answering, with a cc to the others" Scottyg says, "For
simple queries such as "Did you get my renewal", Jennifer is the obvious
choice. But I've seen other cases that get complex and involve policy
issues." rhodab says, "I=It"
Scottyg says, "Since Jennifer is not part of this group, she may have
problems with those issues." rhodab says, "If the question were
complicated, Jennifer could forward it to a designated person for
answering" Greg-1 says, "She would know to forward policy issues to the
appropriate corporate officer, if we identify the appropriate corporate
officer." Greg-1 says, "Yeah, what Rhoda said."
rhodab says, "And followup to make sure that person responds" Greg-1 says,
"I think we should forward such questions to the Moon Society secretary."
rhodab says, "Bye now!"
Greg-1 says, "Well hey, Rhoda, at least you read your mail!" Severy says,
"Do we have any obvious info on moonsociety.org about where to go with
membership questions?" Greg-1 says, "Which is more than I can say for me."
rhodab grins.
Scottyg says, "A broader question...Do we have general "How to contact us"
info?" rhodab says, "I haven't seen any"
rhodab says, "that either"
rhodab says, "neither"
Severy says, "There is a "Contact Us" link on moonsociety.org" Scottyg
says, "And that leads to: we need some help with the web work. Jim seems to
be completely stalled." Severy says, "But it just has the mailing address
and info@moonsociety.org" dcarson-1 says, "web help should be something we
have volunteers for" rhodab says, "Sounds like the sweater is ravelling
before it's knitted!!" rhodab says, "unravelling"
rhodab is going to sit on her hands!
Greg-1 says, "Where does info@moonsociety.org go to?" rhodab says, "I don't
mind answering the membership questions that Jennifer can't (darn those
hands!)" Greg-1 says, "Obviously I've been in a dither about the lack of
attention to the web sites that we've been suffering lately. I have no idea
what to do about it." TimCadell has arrived.
TimCadell says, "Good evening, all."
Greg-1 says, "And in the nick of time, Our Hero arrives!" rhodab says, "Hi
Tim"
TimCadell says, "Hey, where's my marching band?" dcarson-1 says, "info goes
to pop09002" TimCadell says, "Thanks, Greg."
Greg-1 says, "Oh goody! (Who is pop09002?)" TimCadell says, "I think that's
the account I read." TimCadell says, "Yup, verified."
Greg-1 says, "So, the address on the Moon Society site for asking questions
goes to Tim." Greg-1 says, "Do you get much traffic there, Tim?" dcarson-1
says, "yep"
TimCadell says, "Not a lot, but a few per week." TimCadell says, "One guy
wanted to know about a password on the moonsociety.org page." TimCadell
says, "Stuff like that, mostly./" rhodab says, "Maybe a FAQ would help"
Greg-1 says, "Let's see ... where are we on this web thing?" Greg-1 says,
"I ask Jim about maintaining the Moon Society site." Greg-1 says, "He
responded that if there was some new Moon Society news to post, he would
post it." TimCadell says, "Is he the only person who *can*?" Greg-1 says,
"He is not interested in correcting the technical problems or presentation
problems we have on the Moon Society web." Greg-1 says, "Anyone with a WSD
account can submit new pages. I don't know who has publishing authority."
Scottyg timidly holds up his hand.
Greg-1 says, "In retrospect, I'd conclude that Jim doesn't see any
obligation for maintaining the web site beyond what he has done, other than
to update news posts." Scottyg says, "Nor any obligation to attend
meetings." Greg-1 says, "That, too."
Greg-1 says, "I don't think he remembers them." TimCadell says, "That's
been my problem recently." dcarson-1 says, "email him the day before?"
Greg-1 says, "He showed up on the wrong Wednesday three times in a row."
Scottyg says, "We have sent out reminder notices at times. That didn't
help." dcarson-1 says, "I don't remember which Wed. but it doesn't mater I
always ahve some meeting" Greg-1 says, "I sent Tim a detailed meeting
schedule." Greg-1 says, "Oops ... Jim, that is."
TimCadell says, "I was going to say. If so, I'm losing email." TimCadell
says, "Dana, yeah, that too." Greg-1 says, "One of them 'im guys."
Scottyg says, "Same here Dana. I just always reserve Wed nite." Greg-1
says, "Jim Burk is in a unique situation since he would only be attending 2
meetings a month. Perhaps he does need a reminder." Severy says, "According
to WSD, the following people have publishing authority in the Moon Society
WSD system: Greg Bennett, "asi", Jim Burk, Tim Cadell, Dana Carson, Scotty
Gammenthaler, Boise Pearson, John Peel, Randall Severy, Ian Randal Strock,
John Wertz, and David Wetnight" Severy says, "Most of those permissions
were simply copied from the ASI WSD system" Greg-1 says, "Would it be
possible to auto-generate a meeting reminder that has a message *subject*
like 'Moon Society Exec Mtg Wed 29 Nov 2000 6:00 PM PST"?" dcarson-1 says,
"easy"
TimCadell says, "And if someone needs to go in and change news or
something, do we really have the authority to override the current site,
according to the Board, I mean?" Severy says, "Yeah, I don't think it's a
coincidence that the people who show up virtually every time are those with
meetings every Wednesday, alternate weeks may be confusing" Greg-1 says, "I
like putting the meeting time and date in the message *subject* so that it
shows up in the list of email you've received. You don't even have to open
the message to get the point." Severy says, "Although I can understand
getting the week wrong here and there, but when you go for two months
without making a meeting, it's not a matter of forgetting which week is
which" dcarson-1 says, "agreed"
TimCadell says, "Yup."
rhodab says, "uhuh"
Greg-1 says, "That's true. Then there's the question not taking any action
to find out when the meetings will occur." rhodab says, "that too"
dcarson-1 says, "Ian hasn't made it for a while either, I think I'll call
him now" Scottyg says, "Do we have anyone else who knows php3?" Greg-1
says, "Yeah, I haven't heard from Ian in *ages*. (For Ian.)" dcarson-1
says, "I know it a bit"
TimCadell says, "Not I, but from what I hear, it's not a bad idea to learn
it." Severy says, "However, the Moon Society is faced with the same problem
that has plagued ASI: we don't have ready volunteers waiting in the wings
when someone is unwilling to perform the duties they agreed to" Greg-1
says, "I'm stuck on that same point, Randall." TimCadell says, "Volunteers.
Yuck."
dcarson-1 says, "apartment moving he said a while ago" Severy says, "We can
ask people to step down if they can't do the work, but is it better to have
the positions sit empty?" Greg-1 says, "It sort of reminds me of the Saga
of Boise Pearson." Severy says, "Yup, I was just thinking the same thing
:-(" TimCadell says, "At least if someone steps down, you know you have a
vacancy." dcarson-1 says, "got his machine"
Severy says, "I'm glad he finally fessed up in that e-mail recently, even
if that was about two years overdue..." Greg-1 says, "Recent email from
Boise?" Severy says, "Well, recent on the scale of how caught up I am on
personal e-mail ;-)" Severy says, "Within the past few months, which is
near real-time for Boise ;-)" Greg-1 says, "Darn. I have email in my IN box
dating back to May, but nothing from Boise." Scottyg says, "I don't
remember anything from Boise either." Greg-1 says, "Correction. December
1999." Greg-1 says, "Oh, that's scary."
Severy says, "September 28, 2000, e-mail to asi-board with subject:
"Decisions"" Severy says, "Found it!"
Scottyg says, "Ah. I'm not on asi-board." TimCadell says, "Nor I."
Greg-1 says, "Oh. In asi-board."
Greg-1 says, "Oh, now it's MY turn to be mortally embarrassed. It was
there, but I had not read it." dcarson-1 thwaps Greg-1 with a rolled-up
newspaper. "Bad! Bad! Bad!!!" Severy says, "The response to Boise's e-mail
was definitely deafening :-(" Greg-1 says, "No wonder nobody is doing
anything. I'm supposed to be the chief gadfly around here, and nobody ever
hears from me." Greg-1 says, "Somebody say something encouraging." rhodab
says, "Well, at least you saved it. :(" dcarson-1 says, "we're less dead
then a lot of groups" Scottyg says, "Something encouraging."
TimCadell says, "That's a point."
rhodab laughs.
TimCadell thwacks Scotty with the rolled up newspaper. Greg-1 says, "Eudora
saved it. :)"
TimCadell says, "There's nothing permanently dead about us. We just need to
get moving on things." TimCadell says, "Speaking of which, I just got a
call from Sandra and I need to get moving to pick her and Alexander up.
I'll be back ASAP." dcarson-1 says, "we need more people with no lives"
rhodab says, "Are you saying we have no lives????" TimCadell says,
"Ideally."
Greg-1 says, "I have wistful memories of having a life." Scottyg says,
"Lives seriously get in the way of this kind of stuff." rhodab says, "True"
dcarson-1 says, "we have lives thats the problem" Scottyg says, "I.e. Tim
picking up Sandra & Alexander" dcarson-1 says, "when Simon had no life we
got lots of content in the ADB" TimCadell says, "Quick question in case I
get back too late to talk: Scotty, LT's secure certificate?" Scottyg says,
"And Randall getting back together with his family." Greg-1 says, "I can
see one big difference between what we're doing and what I've done in every
other organization I've run -- all the other organizations were localized,
so that they became an important part of the social life of the members."
Scottyg says, "And me perhaps doing the same." TimCadell says, "Greg, yup."
Scottyg says, "Ack. Sorry Tim, it fell in the crack." dcarson-1 says, "yep
local face to face meetings help" TimCadell says, "I need it for Christmas
sales. Sorry to bug you about it, I can buy a VeriSign one tomorrow if need
be." Scottyg says, "I need to put it on a checklist somewhere." TimCadell
says, "Gotta run or Sandra'll be standing on the street for a while. See
you guys later." Greg-1 says, "Go get her, Tim."
Scottyg says, "Sigh. Maybe you should go ahead with Verisign. I have to
drive up to McKinney to file a dba, and also file one with the State. I'm
afraid that will seriously eat into Christmas time." dcarson-1 says, "or we
need to get hooked on the moo as socila life like some college kids do"
Scottyg says, "The problem is...spouses 7 kids aren't hooked." Scottyg
says, "7 = &"
Greg-1 says, "Yup."
Greg-1 says, "In the Northwest Science Fiction Society, we had several
married couples, some with children; and the club events were social events
for the families." Greg-1 says, "Conclusion: Local groups more than help;
they're the foundation." Greg-1 says, "If it weren't for the local groups,
National Space Society would be nothing." rhodab says, "Hear Hear!!"
Greg-1 says, "OK, so what do we fix first?" Greg-1 says, "I think if we're
going to concentrate on any one area beyond the basic core business
functions, we should concentrate on local groups." Greg-1 says,
"Unfortunately, to do that effectively, we'd need a gadfly who can travel
and organize things. Which ain't gonna happen." Greg-1 says, "So the next
best thing we can do is put together materials that will help people
organize on the local level." Greg-1 says, "And provide whatever support
forums and such that we can." Scottyg says, "I'm handling most of the core
business functions, but someone else is gonna have to run with this one."
Greg-1 says, "Yup, I know, Scotty."
Greg-1 says, "Unfortunately, our chapters coordinator is none other than
our selfsame webmaster absentium." Severy says, "In theory, we may get
Margo back soon, rumor says she's finishing up her school work soon..."
dcarson-1 says, "need to do more recruiting at local events to get clusters
of people" Greg-1 says, "Well, we have a few faithful still on
artemis-list. Maybe we can get some brainstorming going there." Greg-1
says, "Good idea, Dana!"
dcarson-1 says, "I need to talk to Ian and Tim about a dealers table at
Balticon, we can probably get one" rhodab says, "Maybe we could concentrate
on starting one, with the idea that it could mentor another, etc."
dcarson-1 says, "grow the mid-atlantic a little" rhodab says, "That would
work, but we'd have to have more meetings to generate enthusiasm about the
org." Greg-1 says, "Yup. Go out to dinner once in a while. People like
dinner meetings." dcarson-1 says, "thats what we do"
rhodab says, "And, they would have to be concentrated in a local area
instead of spread over this entires Baltimes/DC area" rhodab says, "Boy, I
wish I could type!" Greg-1 says, "I wish I could hype."
rhodab laughs.
Greg-1 says, "I guess every local group will have to define what it means
by "local"." Greg-1 says, "For instance, the infamous, now moribund,
Seattle Chapters 1 and 2 of NSS that grew out of the Northwest L5 Society."
Scottyg says, "Yeah, Dallas/Ft Worth was a pretty large area for our
chapter too." rhodab says, "A place that is within easy reach of the
members." Greg-1 says, "In fact, every strong membership organization I can
think of depends almost exclusively on its local groups." Greg-1 says, "In
the beginnign, the NWL5 Society drew members who had to make an overnight
trip just to get there. Then it split up into many, many smaller chapters."
rhodab says, "If you can get a few that live close to each other and start
building one chapter, it could sponsor another in the next 'town' - such as
Baltimore could start, then sponsor/mentor DC or Rockville/Gaithersburg"
Greg-1 says, "Yes, that would help."
Greg-1 says, "If we get hundreds of local groups going, and just a few of
them do things besides getting together for dinner a couple of times a
month, then the Moon Society will really, really accomplish something."
Greg-1 says, "After all, there are gazillions of NSS chapters, most of them
completely moribund." Greg-1 says, "Not to mention the Mars Society
chapters, of which there are more than there are Mars Society members."
Greg-1 says, "Would it be possible to start a local chapter with a dinner
meeting? Or does it need to start with something else, like a more open
public meeting?" Greg-1 says, "Hell, if I thought it would work, I'd hire a
room at Caesars on a Tuesday night and put an announcement in the paper."
dcarson-1 says, "either could work, depends on luck/interest" Scottyg says,
"I think the dinner meeting is the way to go." rhodab says, "That would
work, Greg. You might only get a few, but it would only take a few" Greg-1
says, "Trouble is, to have a dinner meeting, people have to be able to find
you in a restaurant." Scottyg says, "Leave word with the maitre'd" Greg-1
says, "The nice thing about a meeting room at a hotel is that it's easy to
find." Scottyg says, "Or however you spell that." Greg-1 says, "yeah,
that's it. Tell people to ask the maitre'd where the meeting is." Scottyg
says, "And when the group grows enough to be predictable, many restaurants
have semi-private rooms." Greg-1 says, "I'm thinking of what I'd do to get
something started in Las Vegas." TimCadell says, "I suppose I should
volunteer to work on the chapters organization, if you can drag it away
from Jim." Greg-1 says, "Something that can be listed in the community
calender, announced on radio things, maybe show up on the local cable
channel." Scottyg says, "As I recall, Jim was a bit reluctant to accept the
job." Greg-1 says, "Would you have time to work on it, Tim?" Greg-1 says,
"Jim hasn't done anything at all, so I would guess he'd be glad to get rid
of the job." Greg-1 says, "But it might be more important for you to invest
your time in making the Bay Area chapter strong." Greg-1 says, "We need
some good, solid examples for other people to learn from." TimCadell says,
"Not tons of time, but working on the Bay Area chapter would probably help
with the whole effort." Greg-1 says, "So somebody has to take the point.
Make mistakes. Find out what works and what doesn't." Greg-1 says, "Oh yes.
Just one strong local group would really get this puppy moving." TimCadell
says, "And maybe I can get help from Steve Durst." Greg-1 says, "Steve
knows folks, and he likes to use the telephone. Use him to recruit folks to
show up at meetings." Greg-1 says, "And at the meetings, recruit, recruit,
recruit." TimCadell says, "Yup. The people we had show up at the first
meeting, about 20 in total, were very interested in continuing. I think
I'll suggest a dinner meeting for the next, and keep them that way while we
can." rhodab says, "Have door prizes, 50/50 drawings. The local Veterans
group started with 5 people that met at a local restaurant. They now have
150 members." Scottyg says, "Dinner meetings get the wives out and
involved." Greg-1 says, "The local Mensa chapters has several little
meetings EVERY WEEK." Greg-1 says, "It's almost like a church." rhodab
says, "Yep. The group here meets at Pizza Hut every other week." Greg-1
says, "Yup. If you can make it a family outing, so much the better."
TimCadell says, "Treating it like church isn't a bad way of looking at it."
Greg-1 says, "Telling folks to talk to the maitre'd at a Pizza Hut doesn't
seem to scan." Scottyg says, "One of the most successful groups I was
involved with met at a cafeteria." Greg-1 says, "Scotty, is it an
environment where a new person could find you and fit in?" Greg-1 says,
"That's one reason I've never made it to a Mensa meeting. I would have know
idea how to identify them." TimCadell says, "I've gone cold to meetings
like that and just asked around. Look for a bunch of adults at the same
table." Scottyg says, "You can leave word with the person at the end of the
line who totals up your choices where you are meeting. The cafeteria we
used had an are which could be screened off from the mail eating area, and
we reserved it. It was great." rhodab says, "They're the ones telling the
raunchy jokes!" Greg-1 says, "Right. Just look for the table with the
funnels." Scottyg says, "are=area & mail=main"
TimCadell says, "Best place to be, Rhoda." TimCadell says, "Ah, thought you
meant mall instead of main." Greg-1 says, "Aw darn. And here I thought you
were eating your mail." Greg-1 says, "I feed mine to the dachshunds."
Scottyg says, "Most of mine gets fed to the trash collector." Greg-1 says,
"Yup. That's the same as feeding to the dog." Scottyg says, "dog=trash
disposer"
TimCadell says, "BTW, someone got hold of Lunar Traders' credit card number
and was charging stuff to it in large chunks. Last I heard, it was more
than $2400. Two nice companies called us to verify that the shipments were
going to different addresses than the billing address and the hounds are
after the crook. I'll let you know what happens." Greg-1 says, "OK, local
group strategies. Dinner meetings. Speakers are good, if you can get 'em."
TimCadell says, "And we're not going to have to pay any of it." Scottyg
says, "Limit business to 30 minutes." dcarson-1 says, "your back"
Greg-1 says, "Scotty, yes. In the NWSFS, we completely separated business
meetings from social meetings." rhodab says, "Speakers that don't speak
long a good. Also food, door prizes and 50/50 drawings. People love to win
stuff" Greg-1 says, "What is a 50/50 drawing?" dcarson-1 says, "Tim, I can
probably get a dealers table at Balticon" TimCadell says, "When is it,
Dana?"
dcarson-1 says, "May 25 - 28, 2001"
rhodab says, "You sell tickets for $1 each or 6 for $5. Then you have a
drawing sometime during the meeting. The winner gets half the pot, the org.
the other half." TimCadell says, "Hmmm, doubt that I can make it, but maybe
Rhonda or I could. Let me talk to her and I'll get back to you." TimCadell
says, "Hell, maybe I could."
dcarson-1 says, "I can provide local help" TimCadell says, "Dana, that
would probably work very well, too! Thanks!" Greg-1 says, "Oh! Dana!
Important question: Is the warehouse empty?" Greg-1 says, "We have a big
bill here for the rent. " Greg-1 says, "I think Melva forwarded the bill to
Scotty." Greg-1 says, "I'm hoping we don't have to pay it." dcarson-1 says,
"no but I have borrowed a hand cart so I can empty it without breaking me"
Greg-1 says, "Good idea!"
Greg-1 says, "Marvelous invention, the wheel." dcarson-1 says, "so
hopefully this week" Greg-1 says, "We should use it more often." Greg-1
says, "OK then, we should be able to get out of paying that bill, I
think,." Greg-1 says, "think."
Greg-1 says, ".......... (punctuation practice)" TimCadell says, "I'll look
into getting the VeriSign certificate tomorrow, Scotty. If I need to get
hold of you for verification or anything, is there a good number to reach
you at tomorrow?" Scottyg says, "My cell phone is 214-850-7594" TimCadell
says, "Dana or Randall, did you remember where a temporary certificate can
be arranged? It isn't included with the SSL version of the server, is it?"
TimCadell says, "Got it, Scotty. Thanks!" dcarson-1 says, "you can generate
your own but it shows up as untrusted" Greg-1 says, "Well, I've got some
stuff to cogitate on. Does anybody need me for anything tonight? I still
need to pack, and get some sleep so I can get synched with Central Time and
make a good showing at the Iowa Space Grant Consortium on Friday."
TimCadell says, "Dana, do they have to know where to look to see that it's
untrusted?" dcarson-1 says, "can't remember"
TimCadell says, "Have a good time, Greg!" dcarson-1 says, "I think it pops
up a dialog box" dcarson-1 says, "have fun Greg"
TimCadell says, "Ah, well, that's not it, then." Scottyg says, "Yep Tim, it
gets right in your face." Greg-1 says, "G'night folks!"
Greg-1 has disconnected.
The housekeeper arrives to remove Greg-1. TimCadell says, "It's good that
it does, but unfortunate for my current purposes." Scottyg says, "Netscape
in particular just about makes you sign your life away." TimCadell says,
"Okay, anything else tonight?" Scottyg says, "nothing more from here."
dcarson-1 says, "not here"
TimCadell says, "Night, then."
TimCadell has disconnected.
Scottyg says, "guess I'll bail out too. G'night!" rhodab says, "Good night."
dcarson-1 says, "gnight all"
Scottyg has disconnected.
rhodab has disconnected.
The housekeeper arrives to cart TimCadell off to bed. The housekeeper
arrives to cart Scottyg off to bed. The housekeeper arrives to cart rhodab
off to bed.

-- End log: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 10:57:09 pm ASI Meeting Server time --