-- Start log: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:04:24 pm ASI Meeting Server time-- 

Severy switches places with Severy-5
kokhmmm has arrived.
garygray says, "Hads abyobe hear anything about Amy and her baby?!"
Severy-5 says, "Welcome, Peter!"
kokhmmm says, "Hello, everyone"
Severy-5 says, "Yes, Gary, both mother and baby are doing well" garygray
says, "Hi Peter!"
kokhmmm says, "Hi, Gary, see you at 8 am" garygray says, "Gtray!"
garygray says, "That's Great!"
garygray says, "Yes, Peter!"
kokhmmm says, "I have been very busy the past two weeks. Had a space
exhibit to get ready for our sciewnce museum last Saturday and then the
Mars Convention that opens tomorrow am in Chicago" kokhmmm says, "Been
working on exhibits, flyers, and more. Have business cards and badges ready
for Gary and me." SJ says, "Cool. Do you do a lot of exhibit prep for
museums?" kokhmmm says, "Yes, Steve. I love public outreach and have done a
lot in the past 18 years, not specifically for museums, but I did have 3
exhibits there this summer." kokhmmm says, "Having 3 a month apart gave me
the opportunity to improve each time." SJ does thumbs-up.
garygray says, "And, it kept you out of trouble!" kokhmmm has disconnected.
Severy-5 says, "Oops, I was about to get things started, but we just lost
our illustrious president!" SJ says, "I don't think we have any proof of
that yet." SJ growls. Still sending private messages instead of to room.
Must . . . learn . . . commands . . . Severy-5 says, "Try '@autosay on',
Steve, it's one of many customizations we've made to this MOO" Michael
says, "yay..... are we all here?" SJ says, "Okay. It talks for me?"
Arthur arrives.
Severy-5 says, "Anything that isn't a command is treated as if you used
'say'" garygray says, "Hi Arthur!"
Severy-5 says, "Welcome, Arthur!"
Arthur says, "Hi! Thought I'd show up for once :-) Just to let you guys
know I'm willing to help out still" MikeD-1 says, "be aware that it does
funny things with sentences that start with 'who' or 'where'" Arthur reads
the meeting agenda
Severy-5 grins.
Michael reads the meeting agenda
Severy-5 says, "Yeah, you need to be a little careful of how you start
sentences when using autosay" Severy-5 says, "If you start a sentence with
a MOO command, the results will be different than what you expect :-)"
MikeD-1 says, "It's like motorcycling Arthur, can't get it out of the
system short of death" SJ says, "michael So I say this to Michael?" SJ
says, "Ah, not like that . . . "
SJ says, "Testing"
Arthur says, "I think losing my email address would do it" SJ says, "Ah."
Severy-5 [to SJ]: You can use the 'to' command to address something to a
specific person The housekeeper arrives to cart kokhmmm off to bed. SJ [to
Severy-5]: like this?
SJ says, "Like that, yay."
Severy-5 [to SJ]: Yup!
SJ reads the meeting agenda
kokhmmm has arrived.
Severy-5 says, "Ahh, here comes Peter"
Severy-5 says, "Welcome back, Peter!"
Severy-5 says, "Ok, I think we have enough people here to get this show on
the road tonight" Arthur says, "I was wondering why Peter was listed as a
room object, rather than a person just now!" kokhmmm says, "Having trouble
with AOL booting me off. Ever since Steve Case turned it over, AOL has been
going down hill." Severy-5 says, "The agenda has been updated, primarily
based on Peter's e-mail of August 3rd" kokhmmm reads the meeting agenda
MikeD-1 reads the meeting agenda
Severy-5 says, "So if you have that e-mail handy (titled "Agenda for 8/18")
it will help provide further details beyond what is in the agenda itself"
Severy-5 reads the meeting agenda
MikeD-1 says, "the agenda is still way too big" Severy-5 says, "You can
ignore the On-going projects section for now" Severy-5 says, "As always,
the agenda is available at
http://www.moonsociety.org/private/leaders/agenda.html, which may be easier
to keep up with while the meeting is going on" Severy-5 says, "The MOO
agenda interface is kinda cool, but not as practical for use during the
meeting" kokhmmm says, "Yes, it's okay to have something listed as an
ongoing project, but unless the owner has an update to give, it should not
be on the agenda itself. " kokhmmm says, "That means the item owner needs
to request it be on the agenda, instead of just in an ongoing projects
folder" MikeD-1 says, "is there any way to put the ongoing projects folder
at the bottom" Severy-5 reads the meeting agenda
Severy-5 says, "Ok, the ongoing projects list will no longer show up in the
MOO agenda object" Severy-5 reads the meeting agenda
Severy-5 says, "Ok, much better, now it all fits on one screen" MikeD-1
reads the meeting agenda
MikeD-1 says, "cool"
Arthur reads the meeting agenda
Severy-5 says, "The benefit of liberal use of the <nomoo> tag :-)" Severy-5
says, "Ok, starting off at the top of the agenda..." Severy-5 says, "Nancy
and/or Greg, do you have an update on Membership Processing?" Nancy-1 says,
"Missy said there were 2 renews and one new membership this week." Severy-5
says, "Ok, thanks, Nancy"
Severy-5 says, "Greg, any progress on paper renewal notices?" Severy-5
says, "I must admit I've been lax in bugging Nancy to bug you about them
:-)" Nancy-1 says, "No,Greg doesn't have it done yet. He's right in the
middle of something right now. " Severy-5 says, "Would it help to set a
deadline for that effort? :-)" Nancy-1 says, "Yes, you need to bug me,
Randall. :)" Nancy-1 says, "It might."
Severy-5 says, "Ok, how does the end of August sound?" Nancy-1 says, "Let
me ask Greg......"
Severy-5 says, "That's two weeks away, and the day before the next meeting"
Nancy-1 says, "Ok, fine!! "
Severy-5 says, "Great!"
Nancy-1 says, "That was from Greg. LOL" Severy-5 says, "I gathered as much
:-)" Severy-5 says, "Ok, the next three sub-bullets in Membership Services
were suggested by Peter and Gary, so I'd like to ask either of you to
explain what you have in mind" Severy-5 says, "Starting with "Additional
Registration Options"" Severy-5 says, "Followed by "Renewal Incentives" and
"Membership Recruiting/Acquisiting"" SJ hopes there is no such word as
Acquisiting. Severy-5 says, "We've talked in the past about giving a member
an additional month on their membership or every member they recruit, is
that the type of thing you two are thinking about?" Severy-5 says,
"Acquisition, sorry :-)" Severy-5 says, "Typos R Us :-)"
kokhmmm says, "I'm not ready with these items, Randall. Hopefully by the
next meeting." Severy-5 says, "And if you see any really strange typing
coming from me, you can blame it on the two kittens running around the room
climbing over everything :-)" kokhmmm says, "Yes, on that order, but I'll
be giving more options - next meeting" Severy-5 says, "Ok, Gary, did you
have anything you wanted to discuss on those items?" Severy-5 says, "Or
leave it to the next meeting as well?" garygray says, "I would like to talk
briefly about membership acquisition!" Severy-5 says, "Ok, go for it, Gary!"
garygray says, "It seems to me that like most other groups we need members,
Perhaps we all should look "outside the box" and for now not consider the
money aspect.!" kokhmmm says, "BTW, I will have a flyer at the Mars
Convention on "Mars in MMM", telling them where they can find stuff online,
and with lots of backcopies of past Mars theme issues. Hope to get some to
sign up." Arthur says, "NSS has been exploring Google ads recently by the
way - can gain people quite inexpensively that way" garygray says,
"Generally we get members by personnal contract and by publizy or
advertising!" kokhmmm says, "Yes, gaining members (joint members) from
other groups is good, but in the long run we need to involve those not
involved at all." MikeD-1 says, "we need new members and we also need much
better member retention" kokhmmm says, "Arthur, the google ad idea is
great! Kudos!" garygray says, "Yes, an internet ad could be beneficial, And
I think low cost!" Arthur says, "http://www.google.com/ads/" SJ says,
"While I doubt they give a break to nonprofits, it never hurts to ask."
kokhmmm says, "Member retention has to go to the top of the list. It's the
cheapest way to keep members up. We could have over a thousand if we were
better at retention." Michael says, "we've discussed 'em before and already
have a motion passed to do it, we just got hung up on the add content
considering you only have about 40 characters" Arthur says, "Actually, they
also have a (beta) grants program for nonprofits we could apply for:"
Arthur says, "http://www.google.com/grants/" kokhmmm says, "New member
conversion - getting them to renew for the very first time, is a feat in
itself." garygray says, "Pershaps we can to into placing membership ads in
various monthly science magazines!" MikeD-1 says, "I understood that google
ads had been provisionally approved for a trial period and that someone was
already working on that" Arthur says, "You just have to be a 501(c)(3) -
and Sergei Brin apparently likes space elevators at least..." Michael says,
"me"
SJ agrees re retention. If you can't keep the ones who were originally
interested, something is very wrong. MikeD-1 says, "how far did you get
with it Michael?" Greg-1 says, "Google ads would cost us about 30 cents per
click-through. In addition to getting publizy for acquisiting new members,
it would also help with brand-name recognition. In other words, remind
people that the Moon Society exists." Michael says, "I just got busy and we
could never come up with any ad copy that we could agree on.... google's
ads are severely restrictive on the number of charactedrs...." MikeD-1
says, "so the copy was the main hurdle then, perhaps that needs to be an
action item" garygray says, "The wording in the ad copy is important--very
important!" Severy-5 says, "Do we want to try to come up with ad copy
tonight? Or make it an agenda item for next time?" kokhmmm says, "Greg,
that's a very good point. We need to get beyong "the what society?" stage"
Michael says, "we basically went round and round on whether hte ad should
just get htem to click through or whether it should try and convince peple
of something in the copy before they clicked..... i.e. "We're going to the
moon! Wanna come!" vs "Free Moon Beer! Click Here!"" Arthur says, "But for
30 cents it doesn't hurt to experiment..." Arthur says, "Actually the
average for the NSS ads has been about 6 cents per click-through." Greg-1
says, "We also need to assign folks to make sure that there is at least one
click-through every day, or Google will drop our ad." Michael says, "we
thought about opening it up to everyone and we did a bit but the ad copy we
were getting wasn't very good... most artemis-list members just aren't
marketing/sales people...." kokhmmm says, "Arthur, does this work when you
search for some space related topic?" Greg-1 says, "Yeah. It would be worth
it to experiment with a lower rate. Ad placement depends on how much you
pay Google for each click-through and how many click-throughs you gt."
Greg-1 says, "get"
Arthur says, "try "space colonization"" garygray says, ""I think we should
do a trial period with Google or someone elsd!" SJ says, "Give me the specs
for the ad - word count, desired slant - and I can have a shot at it."
Michael says, "peter, you can tweak the search terms you want to hit on
almost a minute by minute basis." SJ says, "Actually, it sounds like the ad
should be checked daily for effectiveness, if we can . . . how often can we
tweak the text, etc? Can we test different wordings? Well, sure we can."
Arthur says, "Actually, there's about a day's lag time where the ad words
get expanded out to secondary content providers - "adsense" users." MikeD-1
says, "Gary, there is already approval for for a trial period with Google,
it just hasn't happened yet, but I assume the approval still stands" Greg-1
says, "Steve, Google AdSense Editorial Guidelines:
https://adwords.google.com/select/guidelines.html" Arthur says, "Some
outsider guidelines here:
http://www.searchengineoptimism.com/SEO_Tutorial/Google_Clickthrough-adwords.htm"
garygray says, "We should try to stay away from concepts that most people
don;t care at present without missing our goals!" MikeD-2 arrives.
Michael says, "title is limited to 25 characters, then you have two content
lines of 35 characters each.... that's all" DaveW-2 arrives.
MikeD-1 says, "that's about 5 and 7 words at best" Michael says, "pretty
much"
Michael says, "hence our conundrum"
SJ says, "Heh. I will work on it. What's the core message? "Want to go back
to the moon? So do we." " SJ says, "Anything important to add to that?"
kokhmmm says, "Keep it shorter. "Back to the Moon? Yes!"" Michael says,
"that was the question: do we want to convey a core message or do we just
want them to click through?" garygray says, ""Steve, lets think about
that!" SJ says, "Gotta give them a reason to click. We all ignore lots of
ads every day." MikeD-1 says, "not sure about 'back to', most people have
never been there so going back is not relevant" Michael says, "its hard to
convey a core message in 70 words or less" SJ says, "Disagree. If you can't
do it in 70 words you don't have a coherent message at all." Michael says,
"hehe.... deja vu all over again! ;-)" MikeD-1 says, "and even harder in 70
characters" SJ . o O ( We're going to the Moon. Join us. ) Michael says,
"true... but we do have a core message... but is that what we want that ad
to do?" garygray says, "I think it would be better to say something loke
'space will increase our well being!" Michael [to high]: on maslows pyramid
of need.... Michael says, "doh"
kokhmmm says, "Space solutions for Earth problems" MikeD-1 says, "that
requires explanation and qualification Gary, most people can't see beyong
their eyelashes" garygray says, "That's better, Peter!"
Michael says, "I already have the account setup so if you guys just send me
ad copy I can set 'em up and test 'em." Arthur says, "Actually, it might
help to think about the keywords you're targeting first, then tailor the ad
to that." Michael says, "Arthur, correct...."
garygray says, "I don;t think so. Anyhow, aren't these the people we are
trying to get to support space?!" Arthur says, "Ideally you want the main
targeted keyword in the first line" Michael says, "and again, are you
trying to get them to click through to the main web page or are you trying
to leave them with a brand image about "Moon Society" as they just glance
around at hte page...." Michael says, "advertising has two tasks: brand
awareness and inducement to buy. One kind just gets the viewer to remember
the brand name the next time they're in the store. The second gets them to
pick up the phone right now and order it (or click on it)." Michael says,
"you *can* engineer these ads so that we get brand recognition without a
single clickthrough.... (and hence, lower costs for us)" MikeD-1 says, "the
former tends to be more succesful in the longterm" MikeD-1 says, "brand
recognition that is" SJ says, "No reason we can't have both if we want, but
they should be separate ads." garygray says, "I agree with Mike, But both
are important, Not for the same ad>!" Arthur says, "The biggest number of
impressions we've gotten for NSS so far (close to 100,000) has been for an
ad targeted at Cassini-Huygens - most of those impressions are on 'adsense'
sites, not Google itself, so spread all over the web." Michael says,
"steve, correct.... so the keywords and ad copy should be targetting to
each task. IMHO, the "we want you to click through" ad should be very
targetted, and optimally tied to some noteworthy event/task/development
related to the moon." Michael says, "mainly because that will be where the
majority of your costs will occur." Michael says, "i.e. "The Moon Society
-- If its about the Moon, we know it!" is about brand recognition. "The
Moon Society - Come see us at the Return to the Moon Conference!"" Arthur
says, "Smart-1 will likely get some press late this year or early 2005,
when it finally starts sending back real data." Michael says, "is about
click through"
Arthur says, "And Trailblazer, if it ever gets off the ground." Michael
says, "bingo! exactly!"
garygray says, "Can we use or connect with the new Space Vision theme?!"
Michael says, "and those will generate clickthroughs because if someone is
searching on "Smart-1" they're really interested in missions and what's
going on *right now*." Michael says, "gary, yes!"
Michael says, "those would be one set of keyword targets we'd use...."
Michael says, "so, without spending to much more time on this, send me your
ad copy with how you think it should be targetted and the keywords to use
and I'll get on it as soon as possible." Greg-1 says, "Michael, we'd better
have a team, or at least a backup, with access to the Google account."
garygray says, "Michael, how are you asking?!" Arthur says, "how = who?"
Michael says, "Greg, yep...same way we're doing the cafepress account."
Greg-1 says, "Yeah, good idea."
Michael says, "gary, I'm asking anyone who wants to help... so if you have
some ideas, send 'em on...." Michael says, "i can ask the artemis list
again if everyone is cool with that...." SJ [to what]: address?
SJ grins.
garygray says, "I think a Team to devleop one or two ads were be good>!"
Michael says, "mmealling@masten-space.com" garygray says, "I am willing to
be a team member.!" Greg-1 says, "Be cautious about using Moon Society
funds to advertise for commercial companies." kokhmmm says, "But if one
person can't make the decision and the team is all over the place, nothing
happens" Greg-1 says, "Or rather, don't do that. Let 'em pay for their own
ads." john-r arrives.
Michael says, "what commercial company are we advertising for?" kokhmmm
says, "Hi, John!"
Greg-1 says, "Someone mentioned Trailblazer. That's a commercial project."
john-r says, "Hi Peter and all, i had to wait out a thunder storm, its not
stormed in 2 weeks, but to night it did" Greg-1 says, "I'm leery of the
RTTM, too, for the same reason. It's not our conference and we have no
control over whether they run afoul of the IRS>" Arthur says, "It wouldn't
be an ad FOR trailblazer, it would be an ad targeting the search keyword
'trailblazer' - if we wanted to. We're piggybacking off them. If nobody
searches for trailblazer, they'd never see the ad." Greg-1 says, "Athur,
oh, now I get it. :)" Michael says, "Greg, sure, I think the suggestion was
to use "trailblazer" as a keyword, not in the ad copy..." Greg-1 says,
"Yeah. Sorry. I missed the point." Michael says, "Greg, RTTM was a success
and we didn't spend a single dime.. its run by a completely different
crowd. RTTM circa '99 and RTTM 2004 are two completely and utterly
different things....." Greg-1 says, "That's wonderful, Michael." Michael
says, "but I'm not gonna beat that horse anymore.... ;-)" garygray says,
"The focus here is getting new Moon Society members.! " Michael says,
"yep.... anyway, I think we're done with this item." garygray says, "Okay,
what was accomphished?!" john-r reads the meeting agenda
Michael says, "I'm re-invigorating the previous decision to actually do the
google ads given ad content that everyone here is going to send me" Greg-1
says, "We now have a Google ads account, several ideas for what to say and
keywords, and Michael's address to send more ideas to." Michael says, "and
everyone *is* going to send me copy, right? ;-)" garygray says, "Okay!"
Severy-5 says, "Ok, anything more on Membership Acquisition?" Greg-1 says,
"Yup, I'd say we accomplished a lot on membership acquisiting. :)" garygray
says, "Not for tonight!"
Severy-5 thwaps Greg-1 with a rolled-up newspaper. "Bad! Bad! Bad!!!"
Greg-1 says, "<gd&rlh>"
Greg-1 says, "(I miss the trout.)"
Severy-5 says, "Ok, moving on to "President Emeritus", speaking of trout
:-)" Greg-1 runs even faster.
Severy-5 grins.
Severy-5 says, "Peter, did we take care of this last time? I've lost
track..." kokhmmm says, "I think we can all agree on this. The next item
also needs board action so let's move to that then if agreed, convene the
board to vote on both." Severy-5 says, "Any discussion needed on the
President Emeritus idea?" kokhmmm says, "Next item would be establishment
of an Executive Commitee for those occasions when we can'tg afford to wait
for next MOO meeting" Severy-5 says, "Any discussion needed on the
Executive Committee idea before we convene the board?" Michael says, "using
the membership list to send out RTTM cards being a perfect example....."
kokhmmm says, "President Emeritus is title given to the founder who
provided the inspiration and on whom we can continue to look for wisdom and
guidance." kokhmmm says, "I do think we need to spell out all the Ps and Qs
about how it would operate, but we could vote to create it now, and then
work on the fine print, unless someone thinks we should do the fine print
first." kokhmmm says, "How the Executive Committee would work" Severy-5
says, "Are we talking about an amendment to the bylaws?" kokhmmm says, "I
see it as a standby commitee, not something always active, only when
occasion warrants" kokhmmm says, "The bylaws do not provide for an
Executive Committee but do provide for us to create one. " kokhmmm says,
"ARTICLE V - BOARD OF DIRECTORS Section 1. Authority and Responsibility:
The affairs of the Society shall be governed by the Board of Directors."
kokhmmm says, "and Article X General. (h) Delegation of Authority: Any Body
of the Society established by these Bylaws may delegate authority to one or
more individuals, except that under no circumstances may authority be
delegated for any matter which requires, by the terms of the Articles of
Incorporation, the Bylaws, or any document referred to by name therein
(except Robert's Rules) a majority or greater vote for the Body in question
to act. " Severy-5 says, "Ok, anyone have any issues with creating an
Executive Committee tonight?" SJ says, "Not I."
MikeD-1 says, "nor i"
kokhmmm says, "Perhaps the procedure here should be to draw up the actual
language to be inserted in the bylaws, and when we are agreed on that, vote
on the by laws change. Anyone want to work with me on the language? We can
vote to do it tonight, but until we have the exact language, we can't amend
the bylaws. " Severy-5 says, "Ok, so do we need a board vote tonight?"
dcarson arrives.
dcarson reads the meeting agenda
MikeD-1 says, "it doesn't sound like we're even close to a formal proposal
yet" Greg-1 says, "I don't see that we would really need a new bylaw to
create an Executive Committee." kokhmmm says, "Perhaps, at this stage, we
could proceed to develop the exact language if we hare a consensus of the
Leadership Council. The Board will vote on the exact language when ready."
Greg-1 says, "It looks like we can do that with a resolution of the board."
kokhmmm says, "I wouldn't say that, Michael. I have language that's very
close but still needs some fine tuning." kokhmmm says, "I want the language
to spell out the occasions that it would be appropriate fof the Executive
Committee to activate itself." Severy-5 says, "Ok, so what should we try to
accomplish tonight?" Greg-1 says, "Do we need to discuss what the Executive
Committee would be empowered to do?" kokhmmm says, "Just agree that this is
something we want to do. Then I will work up trial language and send it to
the Leaders for input, and perhaps we can have a vote next time." Greg-1
says, "It's not yet clear to me what it would do or how this would be
better than what we've been doing." kokhmmm says, "Yes, greg. We don't want
to inadvertantly create a monster. A tool, yes." Severy-5 says, "Ok, does
anyone think we *shouldn't* do this?" Greg-1 says, "My guess is that we can
empower the officers by giving them a budget to work with and a definition
of each line item." Greg-1 says, "Anything that requires a policy change
can wait for the next board meeting." kokhmmm says, "Grfeg, the idea is to
have a mechanism to handle questions and opportunities that can't wait for
the twice a month MOO sessions. But we don't want it to be abused." Greg-1
says, "I understand the philosophy, Peter, but I can't think of an example
from our past history where we failed to act on something because we had to
wait for the board." kokhmmm says, "It's not a policy change issue. "
john-r says, "i am ok with seeing the proposal on the leaders list, it
would likly answer some/most concerns of its creation." kokhmmm says,
"Okay, and I will try to list some examples of appropriate reasons for the
Exec. Committee to activate. Perhaps that's what I haven't succeeded in
getting across." Greg-1 says, "Yeah, that would help in understand why we
need to do it." Michael says, "one thing to remember: even if the executive
committe does something, the board always has the ability to override it"
Greg-1 says, "Michael, if we did it that way, then the committee would end
up waiting for the board anyhow." kokhmmm says, "Michael, that defeats the
purpose. I'll give examples, and then you'll see what I mean." Greg-1 says,
"So... we're on hold pending receipt of Peter's more detailed proposal?"
kokhmmm says, "The Board, in creating the Executive Committee, would
empower it to take certain kinds of actions in certain kinds of
circumstances within certain limits." Michael says, "right, but your not
saying that the board then has no say so in the future about any actions
the exec comm has made in the past." Michael says, "i.e. the board still
reigns supreme" kokhmmm says, "Small money expenditures, limited windows of
opportunity for getting in on some action, etc." Severy-5 says, "The board
can always overrule the Executive Committee, but that doesn't mean waiting
for board approval" Severy-5 says, "Just as the board can overrule itself"
Greg-1 says, "Right. The board can always overrule anything. The major risk
is embarrassment, closely followed by the risk of the Executive Committee
making a financial commitment that the board doesn't want to approve."
Michael says, "never said it had to wait... but that even if the exec comm
gets taken over by aliens and starts issuing fatwas about women wearing
burkas, the Board can declare anythign the Exec Comm did null" MikeD-1
says, "an executive committee allows instant reaction to things like 20%
hikes in postage by USPS" kokhmmm has disconnected.
Greg-1 says, "Ack! We lost Peter."
Greg-1 says, "Did Milwaukee get nuked?" MikeD-1 says, "he's complaining of
poor service from AOL in the recent past" garygray says, "I think they have
stormy weather.!" SJ . o O ( Aliens got him. )
MikeD-1 says, "the whole northern hemisphere seems to have stormy weather
for the last 2 -3 weeks" Greg-1 says, "I hope he likes Chinese food!"
garygray says, "Do you think we could get Congress to fund the Space
program if we said there is a terrorist base on the Moon?" MikeD-1 says,
"you couldn't get congress to fund a pissup in a brewery" MikeD-1 says, "at
least not in our lifetimes" The housekeeper arrives to cart kokhmmm off to
bed. Arthur says, "Hey Greg, do those Betelgeusians have any money for us?
:-)" kokhmmm has arrived.
kokhmmm says, "I'm back - AOL cut me off again!" Greg-1 says, "They don't
seem to be interested in joining the Moon Society but they're willing to
trade their star drive design for a complete set of Charmed DVD's." kokhmmm
says, "play current"
Severy-5 says, "Ok, do we need to do anything more on the Executive
Committee tonight?" kokhmmm says, "No, I can see that I still have to make
the case. I'll work on the language and try to explain better the reasons
for it." Arthur reads the meeting agenda
kokhmmm says, "How about taking care of the President Emeritus issue?>"
Arthur says, "For what it's worth, it sounds like a good idea to me :-) Big
boards aren't good at quick executive decision making" kokhmmm says, "The
more people in on the decision, the longer it takes, and not necessarily
for the better." kokhmmm says, "But I want the committee only for
emmergency action and in occasions when action can't wait." john-r reads
the meeting agenda
Michael says, "it would also help if people could write down their
objections/concerns" Michael says, "also, just in general, don't try to
solve problems that probably won't come up anyway....." Severy-5 says, "Ok,
shall we have a quick board meeting?" MikeD-1 says, "yup"
MikeD-1 says, "real quick, I need to sleep" A loud reverberating gong
signals the start of the Moon Society Board of Directors meeting Severy-5
says, "I left my gavel behind :-)" Michael sits up a little straighter
Severy-5 says, "Does everyone waive notice of the board meeting?" Severy-5
waives notice
dcarson says, "waive"
Michael says, "waive"
MikeD-1 waives notice
kokhmmm says, "Greg? Steve?"
Greg-1 says, "I waive notice."
Greg-1 says, "(Steve, that means it's OK with you if we have an official
board meeting without going through the formalities of announcing in
advance.)" Arthur says, "I've gotta go guys - goodnight!" Arthur has
disconnected.
Greg-1 says, "G'night, Arthur!"
Greg-1 says, "Oops."
SJ waves, noticeably.
SJ -)
Greg-1 says, "LOL"
john-r says, "waiver"
Greg-1 rolls 1d5 = 2.
Severy-5 says, "Ok, Peter, can you make the motion?" kokhmmm says, "I move
that Gregory R. Bennett, founder of the Moon Society and its source ofr
inspiration, be named President Emeritus for life, a title of honor which
shows the esteem in which we hold him." dcarson says, "second"
Michael says, "second"
Greg-1 blushes.
SJ says, "In a minute you'll be calling for votes. So Aye." Severy-5 says,
"second"
Severy-5 says, "Oops :-)"
Severy-5 says, "All in favor?"
MikeD-1 says, "Aye"
Severy-5 says, "Aye"
dcarson says, "aye"
john-r says, "AYE"
Severy-5 says, "The motion passes!"
The housekeeper arrives to cart Arthur off to bed. Severy-5 says, "Any
other business to come before the board tonight?" Nancy-1 says, "*wipes
tears from my eyes* That's so nice." Severy-5 chuckles.
kokhmmm . o O ( everything else can wait. ) Severy-5 says, "If not, I move
that the board adjourn for the night" Greg-1 says, "Thank you, gentlemen. I
like the job description where all I have to do is get older and smile a
lot. :)" MikeD-1 says, "President Emeritus, sentenced to serve 999 years
plus life :-)" Nancy-1 says, "He does that well!"
Nancy-1 says, "LOL"
kokhmmm says, "You'll probably do that anyway, Greg!" Greg-1 says, "Lots of
practice, Peter!" Nancy-1 says, "Yep!"
garygray says, "Greg, Ask what the pay is>" Greg-1 says, "Double my
previous salary?" kokhmmm says, "We just double his present salary, gary"
Nancy-1 says, "Oh boy!! We can go out to dinner now!" Greg-1 says, "LOL!
Great minds!"
garygray says, "Can we afford that much?!" Severy-5 says, "I need a
second..."
Greg-1 says, "Or grated minds, as the case may be." Greg-1 says, "secodn
the motion to adjourn." Greg-1 says, "Second, too."
kokhmmm has disconnected.
Greg-1 says, "Furshlugginer AOL. They're messing up our shiny new
president!" Severy-5 says, "All in favor?"
MikeD-1 says, "he really needs a new ISP" Greg-1 says, "Aye."
MikeD-1 says, "Aye"
Severy-5 says, "Aye"
dcarson says, "aye"
SJ says, "aye"
Severy-5 says, "Michael, Steve?"
MikeD-1 says, "does that have to be unanymous?" Michael says, "aye"
john-r says, "aye"
Michael says, "is the motion that peter needs a new ISP?" A loud
reverberating gong signals the end of the Moon Society Board of Directors
meeting kokhmmm has connected.
Severy-5 says, "Welcome back, Peter!"
kokhmmm says, "moon-leaders"
Severy-5 says, "You're already here :-)" Greg-1 says, "You are here, Peter!
:)"
kokhmmm says, "Third time Aol kicked me off!" Severy-5 says, "You weren't
gone long enough for the housekeeper to take you away..." SJ says, "Got to
run. Later, folks."
SJ has disconnected.
kokhmmm says, "Takes about 5 minutes (seems like) to get back on." Greg-1
says, "Have a good evening, Steve!" kokhmmm says, "Well, I have to get up
in a few hours to catch a train to talk to these Mars guys." Severy-5 says,
"Shall we postpone the rest of the agenda until next time?" kokhmmm says,
"Hope to have something positive to report at Convention's end." MikeD-1
says, "maybe it's time to look at Earthlink as an ISP Peter" Michael says,
"oh btw, I'm talking to the Alabama Center for Aerospace Development about
that CDSVN project next Thursday" kokhmmm says, "Yes, let's postpone the
rest till next time." kokhmmm says, "Mike, maybe I just need to get my
cable modem back." Michael says, "they seem interested in helping out by
providing people and possibly money" MikeD-1 says, "still meve came up with
a snazzy name for that Michael?" Michael says, "Mike, hehe... nope!"
kokhmmm says, "I use all the associated free web space of my 7 aol
screennames" john-r says, "and i need to heads off to sleep time... night
all.. btw congrats to Michael on Masten Space Systems" Michael says,
"thanks john!"
john-r says, "welcome"
john-r has disconnected.
kokhmmm says, "Can I learn about Masten on the web?" MikeD-1 can no longer
see the monitor
Michael says, "http://masten-space.com/" garygray says, "Yea, I need to
leave too--to fight with those Martians. See you tomorrow, Peter!" kokhmmm
says, "Thanks, good night all." garygray has disconnected.
Michael says, "g'nite!"
kokhmmm has disconnected.
dcarson says, "heading back to the commons" dcarson goes home.
Nancy-1 says, "Night all!"
MikeD-1 says, "night"
The housekeeper arrives to cart SJ off to bed. MikeD-1 has disconnected.
The housekeeper arrives to remove MikeD-1. Nancy-1 has disconnected.
The housekeeper arrives to remove Nancy-1. Michael goes home.
The housekeeper arrives to cart john-r off to bed. The housekeeper arrives
to cart garygray off to bed. The housekeeper arrives to cart kokhmmm off to
bed.

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