-- Start log: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:45:21 pm ASI Meeting Server time -- Lunadyne says, "Whoa! How'd that happen?" Strangelv isn't sure how much quota he has left. He hasn't updated his quota count since 31 December 1969. Strangelv leaves. lesausl says, "I am contemplating a personal trip to Moscow top see some friends. It happens they are part of a University staff there and I may be avble to organize a Moon Society International presentation (symposium) while I'm there. The thing is they want to heare about my work on Mercurty settlement." lesausl says, "Moon Society is not officially on board for that andf I do not consioder it appropriate to represent the Society but talk about Mercury when we are not policie d for it." Lunadyne says, "Mercury? Well, that tells me a lot about their mindset. They're interested in the more esoteric stuff." Lunadyne says, "Makes me question the fertility of the soil you propose to cultivate." Strangelv-2 says, "Mercury is likely to be more practical than Venus, if a workable solution can be found" Lunadyne says, "Dude. I WANT my cloud city, okay?" pjbanyai says, "There are a few ways to bypass a dns shutdown. IANA dns servers while official are not the only ones. However, this legislation does far more than remove a domain name from official dns servers. Last may the U.S. signed a treaty which is in the process of setting up a global internet censorship regime. SOPA and PIPA or some other version of them is required of all signers to this treaty." Lunadyne says, "lol" Strangelv-2 says, "eww" lesausl says, "The point here is if I go, I go in answer to there invitation to talk zabout Mercury. I will also present something about luynar settlemtn and pitch the Societty." Strangelv-2 says, "Sounds like a good opporutinity" lesausl says, "It is. Expensive. but good." Lunadyne says, "I'd play it low-key. Focus on Mercury like they want, but be ready to pitch TMS if you see they're inclined. perhaps elicited by prominent mention in the presentation of your role in TMS." Strangelv-2 says, "We need to get you cards. That's another 12 year old action item that was waiting on a ocnsensus for a non-placeholder logo..." lesausl says, "Yes, they know about TMS and my currwent position on the Board. they actually think I know what I'm talking about. Won't THEY be surprised!" Strangelv-2 says, "What do you know about lava tubes?" Lunadyne says, "I had the same sort of thing when I went to ISU in 2010 to talk about space outreach and education at their annual symposium. I used the opportunity to indulge myself a bit, flying on the A380 and taking the TGV from Paris to Strasbourg and back." Strangelv-2 says, "Peter might be a good person to tryto get you bkc up to speed if we can get him back online" Lunadyne says, "I do agree on biz cards." Lunadyne says, "Since lava tubes came up, any ideas on how we might put that part of the bequest to good use?" Strangelv-2 says, "bequest?" lesausl says, "About 'cloud cities' Forget them. operations at Venus will be heavily automated with smaller crews. No great incedntive for 'cities'. More like refineries." lesausl says, "off shore refineries." Lunadyne says, "As long as I'm on site and in charge..." lesausl says, "And have the money!" Strangelv-2 says, "Did anything come out of the data that suggested there might be microbes in the upper atmosphere wheer it's notn too hot for them to survive?" Lunadyne says, "Bequest - the money we got from the dead guy to go to scientific projects." Strangelv-2 says, "What's the amount to go to scientific projects?" Lunadyne says, "The two of interest are robotic exploration of Lunar lava tubes, and Solar sail comm sats." lesausl says, "'Bequest money????? I thought you were talking about Venus>" Lunadyne says, "My on site and in charge was about Venus" Strangelv-2 says, "If we fail to think of anything in house in a timely manner we could look for parties to give grants to" lesausl says, "Oh" Lunadyne says, "IIRC there was $18K split between NSS, LRS, and TMS. So $6K for the two projects. Peter & Dave have talked about teaming up with LRS to leverage it. I would presume the NSS money long gone." pjbanyai says, "I believe we have a quorum. 5 out of 10 officers and directors. At least I assume David Dunlap is still Liaison Director or Chief Networking officer." Lunadyne says, "Is Dave on?" pjbanyai says, "no I was counting as the total of 10." Strangelv-2 says, "If that's his title I don't believe he counts towards quorum or has a vote. IIRC, the magement commitee has to have a majority of its seats go to board members, which gives us a maximumt of 9 -- so 5 should be quorum" Lunadyne says, "Dave is our current Liaison to the NSS BoD. I don't think he's continuing after this next election, but we will have Chris Carson on the BoD as Region 3 Rep." Lunadyne says, "That's NSS BoD" Lunadyne says, "I think you're right about the quorum, though. I move we call the meeting to order, or some semblance thereof." lesausl says, "I second" Lunadyne says, "In favor?" bnault says, "aye" ronb22 says, "Aye!" lesausl says, "aye" Lunadyne says, "Aye" Lunadyne says, "Looking for one more..." pjbanyai says, "Bylaw state that all officers whether elected or appointed are ex-officio members of the BOD. They are elegible to be Chair of the BOD since that is a non voting position. All Directors and Officers are full voting members of the Management Commitee." pjbanyai says, "aye" Lunadyne says, "Alright. Membership report 144 members, a downward trend." Lunadyne says, "Renewals are fine, but we also have to be generating new members." Lunadyne says, "Affiliate News: New NSS ED, Paul Damphousse. I think it's a surprisingly good choice. I'm going to approach him about having TMS do a Moon track at ISDC." bnault says, "I think the ISDC moon track has already been OK'ed" Lunadyne says, "On the NSS side?" pjbanyai says, "I still think we need to get our membership system working better. Current members can not easily renew after 3 months and they lose their username and password. After expiration they can not update their account profiles with new contact information such as new email or physcical address." bnault says, "yes, contact Peter- he was at the last ISDC and in contact with this yr's organizers" bnault says, "in any case, it doesn't hurt to mention it again" Lunadyne says, "Paul, there's so much that needs fixing at the website. So much so that it's generating its own inertia." Lunadyne says, "At times I'm tempted to scrap it and start fresh rebuilding on a new template." lesausl says, "Do it." Strangelv-2 says, "What do we have on the Moon Society site?" bnault says, "previous attempts at re-organizing the website have foundered on various stakeholders opinions on what is important or not..." Strangelv-2 says, "ASI has the ADB, but we don't hawve anything of that size -- at least not without its own site" bnault says, "starting anew might be the best option" Lunadyne says, "I'm less concerned about that as with the awkwardness of the WSD structure." Lunadyne says, "In reply to Ben." Lunadyne says, "What is the ADB?" Strangelv-2 says, "Artemis Databook" Lunadyne says, "WTF is that?" Lunadyne has disconnected. bnault has disconnected. lesausl has disconnected. ronb22 has disconnected. pjbanyai has disconnected. Strangelv-2 has disconnected. The housekeeper arrives to remove Strangelv-2. The housekeeper arrives to cart Lunadyne off to bed. The housekeeper arrives to cart bnault off to bed. The housekeeper arrives to cart lesausl off to bed. The housekeeper arrives to cart ronb22 off to bed. The housekeeper arrives to cart pjbanyai off to bed. ronb22 has arrived. ronb22 has disconnected. The housekeeper arrives to cart ronb22 off to bed. alanzaldua has arrived. alanzaldua says, "Hi everybody! Sorry I'm late. :(" alanzaldua says, "Anybody home???" Lunadyne has arrived. Lunadyne says, "Hi Al!" alanzaldua says, "Whew! I'm not alone." Lunadyne says, "I hope folks weren't thrown by Paul's Google calendar thing. I just noticed it said 6-8pm." Lunadyne says, "Which I'm hoping is PST." alanzaldua says, "Hi, Ken. Me too. " Lunadyne says, "I do note that the recorder is going." alanzaldua says, "OK, that means someone must have turned it on. " alanzaldua says, "So, who else is here?" Lunadyne says, "Looks like it's just you, me, the dice, and a failed gizmo." Lunadyne says, "We are a bit early." alanzaldua says, "OK. Well, without a quorum soon, can we get anything done? I do have something to say while we wait for possible others. " Lunadyne says, "Say ahead." Lunadyne says, "I mean go ahead." alanzaldua says, "OK. Well, I'm thinking about organizing a local chapter of the Moon Society because I know 2 other "mooonies" plus there's a new one in town. " dcarson has arrived. alanzaldua says, "Great. Three of us now. " Chard arrives in cloud of smoke. Lunadyne says, "Hi Dana!" Chard waves. -- End log: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:51:51 pm ASI Meeting Server time --