-- Start log: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:04:18 pm ASI Meeting Server time --
lesausl says, "Did ANYONE bring a pizza?" kokhmmm has arrived. Lunadyne
says, "Bryce it had mushrooms so I threw it out." Scottyg says, "Sorry, no
Pizza." Lunadyne says, "Hi Peter." kokhmmm says, "Hi Ken, Al, Bryce, Dana,
Paul, Scotty, Ben!" Lunadyne says, "Roll call!" Lunadyne says, "Here"
Scottyg says, "I brought a chicken fried steak but I ate it." lesausl says,
"Hello Peter," bnault says, "here" kokhmmm says, "herte" pjbanyai says,
"here" Scottyg says, "here" lesausl says, "here" dcarson says, "here"
alanzaldua says, "here" Lunadyne says, "Great, we've got a clear quorum.
First item is membership - flat at 151 from last time." kokhmmm says, "But
that is better than two months ago" Lunadyne says, "Which if my math is
correct is about a 5% increase from the 144 when I started." Scottyg says,
"I have to plead guilty to that jump." kokhmmm says, "Hooray!" Lunadyne
says, "How so Scotty?" Scottyg says, "I got a little behind on collecting
the mail so there were some mail-ins stacked up." Lunadyne says, "Still,
any new members are good." Lunadyne says, "I'm going to focus on glossy
membership brochures this weekend for the ISDC." Scottyg says, "Yep. And
the increase is real, it just didn't happen on the timeline you see."
kokhmmm says, "3 new members to send membership packets p tomorrow" kokhmmm
says, "I am now also sending email to new members" kokhmmm says, "On how to
get the most out of their membership experience" dcarson says, "Balticon is
the same weekend, want me to get anything locally and meet Thursday night
for dinner and I'll drop off whatever you wanted?" Lunadyne says, "I need
to remember to print out the current membership list so that I can hand out
pins." kokhmmm says, "Do you want me to enclose a pin with membership
packets? Haven't been so far." Lunadyne says, "Dana, I should be arriving
sometime Thursday, but not sure when. Since I'm not interested in driving
through the DHS-ccupied states of Kentucky and Tennessee, I've got to swing
further north to 70." Lunadyne says, "Peter, might as well. Let's get the
visibility and work it any way we can." kokhmmm says, "Okay, will do."
kokhmmm says, "DHS" dooesn't ring a bell." pjbanyai says, "Any news on the
possibilty of making the ILRP our Primary Project? It is high time that we
updated/replaced the large Artemis Project Poster. " Lunadyne says, "I
didn't sign up for any of the dinners or lunches so that I can pop out to
the bookstores in D.C. and Baltimore" kokhmmm says, "Paul, we do have a ton
of those old posters, paid for. It would be great to have new artwork but
to decide on what, or to have a poster contest may or may not produce good
results." dcarson says, "can being as many as you want to ISDC" Lunadyne
says, "I'm not sure about making ILRP our primary project. An important
project, but hard to tie with our goals of people living and working on the
Moon." dcarson says, "might be worth sending a tube full to that teacher"
Lunadyne says, "I think we can get some mileage out OF Lunar Lava Tubes
over the next year." Lunadyne says, "But that's for further down in the
agenda." Lunadyne says, "Next up is Secretary's Report. Anything to report,
Peter?" kokhmmm says, "Wow, Ken. Isee the ILRP as on a direct path to first
industrial settlement on the Moon" Lunadyne says, "But not necessarily THE
path." kokhmmm says, "Secretary-Editor The June issue is almost ready. Then
a "break" until August during which I will be busy with the next quarterly
and with the Kindle project" Lunadyne says, "I do think the ILRP can be a
strong Lava Tube partner." Lunadyne says, "Okay, Treasurer's Report?"
pjbanyai says, "Remember the ILRP is not just an earth analog. It is in
many ways similar to Buzz Aldrin's International Lunar Development
Corporation." dcarson says, "still making progress" dcarson says, "thanks
Jason for finding the CPA to contcat" Scottyg says, "Who is carrying the
ball on coordinating with our CPA volunteer?" kokhmmm says, "ILRP Hawaii is
just the prototype for ILRP Luna" lesausl says, "U da Man, Jason!" dcarson
says, "I think I should be the one to contact him, no sense playing
multiple person relay" Lunadyne says, "Agreed." Lunadyne says, "Plus you
should have all of the records he'll need." alanzaldua says, "Makes sense
for the treasurer to be the contact person." dcarson [to file]: the 990Ns
is just a couple pieces of data alanzaldua says, "First phase of ILRP Luna
would be totally robotic, right?" Lunadyne says, "We do have to be careful
we have the right historical information for each year we backfill."
dcarson says, "EIN, name and address of org, names and address of a
officier, that we make less than 50K and exist" kokhmmm says, "On the Moon,
yes, but that is after ILRP Hawaii" Lunadyne says, "Does anyone know if
they're getting any visibility at ISDC?" dcarson says, "those are all the
same for the last few years" Scottyg says, "The only financial info is that
our receipts are below 50K. The bank statements demonstrate that." pjbanyai
says, "We also have to start getting our "Doing Business As" names clear.
We are "The Moon Society" and "Moon Society International."" Lunadyne says,
"Let's see if we can get the financial stuff all wrapped up by close of
elections, so that we can start right in on the Amazon, CafePress and other
income-producing issues." kokhmmm says, "The International is not official"
Lunadyne says, "Peter, DBA means we use that name in how we present
ourselves to the public." Scottyg says, "No. Our only DBA is Moon Society
Incorporated." Lunadyne says, "Can we make that The Moon Society
Incorporated? And add Int'l?" Scottyg says, "When we use The Moon Society,
the "The" is not part of the name." pjbanyai says, "Moon Society
Incorporated is official legal name. DBA is how we are presented on the
internet and in other Media." Scottyg says, "We can file for a name change.
And then notify various parties, like the IRS, etc." Lunadyne says, "It
should be part of the name to help distinguish that there is only one Moon
we really concern ourselves with in a big way." pjbanyai says, "for example
Marvel Comics is DBA for Marvel Entertainment inc." Scottyg says, "Paul, I
understand what a DBA means. But I'll repeat, the only official name we
have used is Moon Society Incorporated." alanzaldua says, "I don't know
what DBA means. Someone please explain. " dcarson says, "doing business as"
bnault says, "doing business as..." Scottyg says, "Doing Business As"
pjbanyai says, "The website does not say "Moon Society Incorporated". Nor
does any membership notifications or the MMM." alanzaldua says, "Of course.
Thanks. " dcarson says, "you can file a DBA with bansk an such so they'll
take checks made out to that name" Lunadyne says, "I just looked at the
990N from 2009 that Paul circulated back in Jan. Our incorporated name is
'Moon Society Incorporated', with a dba of Artemis Society, which we've
agreed to drop. I want 'The Moon Society' as our DBA, and 'Moon Society
International' for our int'l stuff." Lunadyne says, "I'll bet our bank
account is in the name of 'Moon Society Inc."" Scottyg says, "Yes Ken."
Lunadyne says, "And I'll bet the checks we get in the mail are made out to
'The Moon Society' or 'Moon Society'" pjbanyai says, "For more information
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doing_business_as. The DBA is a Trade
Name." dcarson says, "banks will usually deposit a check if it looks
rasonable and as long as no one complains afterwards it gors through"
Lunadyne says, "Which gets them in trouble when fraud is involved."
Lunadyne says, "Okay, so we're making progress." Lunadyne says, "Next up is
ISDC, which starts next Friday." dcarson says, "they jsut reverse the
transaction if you complain" Scottyg says, "hecks are generally Moon
Society without the "The"" Lunadyne says, "Our track is in place, and I
think we've got a good program. We can also start laying the groundwork for
a track on Lava tubes at the 2013 ISDC." alanzaldua says, "Lava Tubes and I
am working with others who want to do a session or two on ringstations
within the cont" lesausl says, "'Ringstations' Al?" alanzaldua says,
"within the context of cis-lunar development. We even have crude
ringstation models, one virtual and one actual." Lunadyne says, "The reason
I'm excited about Lava tubes is that it is a chance to merge the robotic
and human objectives - we need the robots to check out the lava tubes
because we want to put people in them on the Moon." alanzaldua says, "yes,
ringstations. It's a bit of a long story, but the original idea comes from
Don Wade. Ihave alread contacted Dressler about it. " alanzaldua says,
"Hey, I like lava tubs also!" alanzaldua says, "I mean tubes." kokhmmm
says, "You don't want to bath in a lava tub!" alanzaldua says, "very funny.
" Lunadyne says, "Not sure if we can do both in the TMS track." alanzaldua
says, "I am willing to do ringstations outside the track, but would prefer
within it. " kokhmmm says, "Fits in with Mars also, however" Lunadyne says,
"Well, Dave Dunlop has already planned out an 8-hour program, so..."
alanzaldua says, "I am talking about ISDC 2013." Lunadyne says, "And I've
got stuff I want to get included. If done right, we can see our names
alongside those of NLSI, ESA, ILRP, and others." pjbanyai says, "There is
currently some news buzz about an engineer who setup a site called
buildtheenterprise.org. While the site is currently down. The idea is
basically about a mobile space-station with a self contained gravity wheel
and two large ion rockets strapped onto it." Lunadyne says, "That would do
wonders for our cred as a science-linked/driven organization, but with
clear human spaceflight goals." Lunadyne says, "Paul, the more working
hardware in cislunar space the better." alanzaldua says, "The ringstation
concept is a stationary torus with 2 counter-rotating maglev habitat trains
withing to proovide artifical gravity." alanzaldua says, "There would also
be a 3rd train closer to the axis of rotation to bring supplies/people to
ther " alanzaldua says, "other 2 trains as needed. " lesausl says,
"Interesting." lesausl says, "This is in norbit? Or on the Moon?" kokhmmm
says, "It would work in either environment with adaptation" alanzaldua
says, "In orbit at EML1 and/or EML2 - at first. " kokhmmm says, "The
gravity level could be varied simply by changing the rpm rate." lesausl
says, "I see." alanzaldua says, "Could be on the moon if more gravity
needed to stay healthy there." Lunadyne says, "Peter, don't you mean by
accelerating or decelerating the train?" kokhmmm says, "Simpler to build
than a traditional torus" kokhmmm says, "accelerating or deccelerating to
another set speed. So at 1 rpm you have less "gravity" than at 2 pm"
alanzaldua says, "RPMs and radius matter. Cannot go faster than 2 rpm or
most people will get sick. " dcarson says, "really need research into how
much g is enough" kokhmmm says, "Yes, and no research on that has been
done, just baseless conjecture." alanzaldua says, "amen. very frustrating.
" lesausl says, "What we NEED is a Lunar Base to find out if 1/6th g is/is
not enough!" Lunadyne says, "How would folks feel about using some of the
bequest money for the Lava Tube project for the ISDC track?" kokhmmm says,
"That would work! Should know after 6 months, better after a yeara"
alanzaldua says, "Bequest money?" Lunadyne says, "Peter, you want to take
this one?" kokhmmm says, "Ken, what parts of the track (models?
demonstrations? literature?) would the money be needed for?" Lunadyne says,
"I'm thinking mainly publicity efforts." kokhmmm says, "Okay, and sure."
Lunadyne says, "A lavatube model would be good. The one you had in FL would
be good. Shipping charges." pjbanyai says, "It is also possible to create
artificial gravity with diamagnetic levitation. Locate the magnet so that
the living creature is forced down instead of up." alanzaldua says, "Mmmmm.
Doesn't diamagnetic levitation involve strong electromagnetic fields?"
kokhmmm says, "I had a lunar homestead model on a 36x80 door in Chicago.
Don't remember anything in Orlando as I flew there. I am working on a
lavatube model and could have it (or both) ready for San Diego."
Strangelv-3 says, "That much magcnetic field Might prove more medically
significant than the intended independant variable" Lunadyne says, "That
was the one I meant. The ISDCs are starting to bleed together a bit."
kokhmmm says, "Wair until you have been to 17 or so" kokhmmm says, "Ken,
check email" Lunadyne says, "Peter is subtly reminding me that we need to
finalize the ballot this evening for the June MMM." Lunadyne says, "The
issue is that we have two openings and three people running. This means a
bit of randomness." bnault says, "i thought we were short one candidate..."
kokhmmm says, "Yes, but two have nominated themselves" Lunadyne says, "We
were, until two people showed up." alanzaldua says, "Can't there be another
at-large postion?" Strangelv-3 says, "WE used to have seven for awhile"
pjbanyai says, "The main problem with diamagnetic levitation is that
anything metal is hurtled towards the magnet at dangerous speeds. So far
all the lab mice have survived the 16 Teslas required for levitation."
kokhmmm says, "We could amend the bylaws. But in the past we wanted an odd
number to avoid stalemates." Lunadyne says, "And if we raised it to seven
we'd still be one short." kokhmmm says, "But 6 would work if the Pres had
power to vote in case of a stalemate. Again have to change the bylaws"
Lunadyne says, "I'm not entirely comfortable going around rewriting the
rules my first year in. Feels like something that the GOP would do."
kokhmmm says, "As is one person would be out when the votes come in, and
that could be one of our present directors who is running for reelection."
Strangelv-3 says, "also, the board does considerably less than it used to.
For awhile, nothing happened without the board's approval from my
undernstanding" Lunadyne says, "Well, I'm a strong believer in having the
board behind stuff that I do. Doesn't mean I can't be a bully when I really
want something." pjbanyai says, "Now we ar absolutely sure that everyone
will still be eligible for a position by the time the Annual Meeting takes
place. We don't want a repeat of last year." Strangelv-3 says, "I once
proposed having the board approve something to make it more solidly
official. The winning counterargument was that since the management
committee involved more of us, that was the more definsitive and official
way to do it." alanzaldua says, "OK, am I understanding that if 3 people
are running for 2 positions, the election is more coplcated?" Strangelv-3
says, "It mheatns the election is an actual election and not a formality"
Strangelv-3 says, "We've had far more complicated elections" alanzaldua
says, "Got it. " Strangelv-3 says, "...just not for awhile" kokhmmm says,
"Ben is running for reelection. Frd Hills seat is empty (2years) and ROn
Brooks seet (last year) is vacant.e " Strangelv-3 says, "\"We've also had
ones where who won what depended on what interpretation of the election
rules we were using. Hopefully that won't happen again, or be handled as
heavy-handedly as it was that time if it does=" kokhmmm says, "We Have 3
new candidates, Al Anzaldua, Philp Crume, and Alan Steinberg for those 2
seats" Strangelv-3 doesn't remember if the election rules were clarified
better when teh bylaws were ammended a few years ago Strangelv-3 says,
"April 2008" Lunadyne says, "So with three seats open, Ben up for
re-election, Al grromed for a slot, and two promising unknowns. There is a
risk that Ben could lose his seat." Strangelv-3 nods. Strangelv-3 says,
"Part of the design." Strangelv-3 says, "Incumbents normally have an
advantage" kokhmmm says, "The election is not complicated, and a real race
is good. But the votes are the votes. We'd like to see Al and one of the
newcomers come out on top, but it could be that the two newcomers might
edge out Al. Al I need your candidate statement! I see we did not run it
last month." Strangelv-3 says, "Good poin,t no statement coul be a
problem..." kokhmmm says, "Yes, Ben could lose, or Al could lose - and both
are working out great!" alanzaldua says, "I sent my statement to you and
ken awhile ago." kokhmmm says, "Ken, can you send me Al'z statement? Or did
you, and I misplaced it?" pjbanyai says, "Philip's membership expired May
13. Alan's is Dec 19, 2014. and Al's expires Apr 15, 2013." kokhmmm says,
"At any rate I did not run it." kokhmmm says, "I could send Phil a reminder
- that is fixable." alanzaldua says, "I sent my statement to both of you,
but, Peter, you were at the cabin at the time. " kokhmmm says, "Both new
guys look good to me." Lunadyne says, "They do have some nice backgrounds."
alanzaldua says, "Agreed." kokhmmm says, "The honest thing to do is run all
of them and leave it up to the voters. Actually, if things go as usual "we"
will be a majority of the voters." kokhmmm says, "So if we all vote for Ben
and Al, and split votes between Phil and Alan, the chances are that Ben and
Al will be safe." Lunadyne says, "I agree with Peter. I opened up this can
of worms when I sent the call to step up to the members, this is the
consequence." Lunadyne says, "The best thing to do is run an honest and
above-board election." bnault says, "Peter and Ken check your email"
Strangelv-3 says, "Q: Why aore we discussing hov to vote? In an official
meeting?" kokhmmm says, "Ben, perish the thought. If it were not for your
occasional schedule conflicts, I would have wanted you to be chairman of
the board." pjbanyai says, "Alan has only had continuous membership since
12/19/2011. He will not have a full year of uninterrupted membership by
election time." Strangelv-3 says, "Do we or the board have teh ability to
waive the requirement?" kokhmmm says, "How long was his membership
interrupted?" Chard-1 arrives in cloud of smoke. Strangelv-3 says, "Wel,l
this body, I should say. I'm not on this committe" kokhmmm says, "Greetings
Jason" Chard-1 says, "Greetings.. sorry for me being late" alanzaldua says,
"By "Alan" do you mean me? My name is Alfred." kokhmmm says, "Al, Ken sent
me your statment. " alanzaldua says, "Good. " kokhmmm says, "Alan = Alan
Steinberg" Scottyg says, "There is precedent for the BOD waiving the
duration requirement. However, that was done with great reluctance and
under circumstances where the alternative would have been an office with no
candidate." bnault says, "usually we waive requirement(s) we were are in
need of a person. if we are not in a bind, I see little reason to waive
requirements." Lunadyne says, "In this case we basically asked Al to run
for the Board. I'm not withdrawing my support for that." bnault says,
"...and I am not saying that to "protect" my position...(LOL)" Strangelv-3
says, "Argument in favor: we would have an uncontested election otherwise"
pjbanyai says, "Alan's first membership expired 12/05/2009. He renewed
12/19/2011 for the buy 2 get 1 free." kokhmmm says, "Scotty, would you say
Alan Steinberg is qualified or not qualified to run?" Lunadyne says, "The
first thing my scammer brain thought of was to use Al's next year for the
missed year and have him renew this December." Strangelv-3 says, "That's a
lot better than, say, someone who just heard of us last December and signed
on and still doesn't really know what we are" kokhmmm says, "If Alan looks
good enough, that might be a solution. We've done things like that before
(with my membership in ASI) i.e.applying the renewal retroactively."
kokhmmm says, "I say leave that decision to Ken" Scottyg says, "Peter, If
the facts are what I've heard here tonight, I would say Alan is not
qualified without an exemption by the board." Strangelv-3 says, "Does Ken
have the ability to do this unilaterally, or does it need managgement
committee or board approval?" dcarson says, "having a contested elkection
is a good thing to me" Lunadyne says, "I'm inclined to ignore the lapse in
membership. He seems to be the youngest person running, so I don't want to
toss that out. I've been in his position when I lapsed at NSS for a couple
of years. It's part of being a 30-something." Scottyg says, "Because the
bylaws establish rules, there should be a 2/3 vote of the board to go
outside the bylaws." kokhmmm says, "IN ASI, Greg Bennett did that for me -
I was active the whole time, but poverty got in the way of dues for two
years, but i made them up." Strangelv-3 says, "Is it possibel to convene
teh board in time?" pjbanyai says, "Technically we could have Alfred
replace Fred's position tonight since I believe we have a majority right
now." Lunadyne says, "Ben, Bryce, and Jason - what are your thoughts?"
Scottyg says, "If all board members are present, a board meeting can be
held without notice by all members waiving notice." Chard-1 says, "I am in
favor of Alan - but I didn't realize there were others running" Scottyg
says, "Otherwise notice requirements apply." kokhmmm says, "All 3 Board
members are here. " pjbanyai says, "Do you mean Alfred?" lesausl says, "If
Al were emplaced tonight, he would still eneed to be on the ballot,
right?\" Chard-1 nods. bnault says, "tonight is supposed to be a board
meeting...according to the calendar" Strangelv-3 says, "That definitkly
simplifies THAT question, then. 8)" kokhmmm says, "Paul, Fred's seat is up
for a full 2 year term. Ron Brooks seat is vacand with one year left, so
that seat should be the one for the appointment." Lunadyne says, "If Al
were appointed to Ron's position, wouldn't that give him a year?" pjbanyai
says, "Correct." lesausl says, "If Alan's membership is non-consecutive,
BUT his cumulative membership is over a year, I could support a waiver."
kokhmmm says, "Otherwise, the one who comes in third would get 2 years, and
the one who came in 4th would get the balance of Ron's term" Strangelv-3
says, "We shouldn't be shuffling incumbents to new seats to create a de
facto >2 year term. Who know,s there could be a group of members who are
rightfully unhappy with us for some reason, and we definitely wouldn't want
the precedent" Strangelv-3 <- ...or did I misunderstand something?
alanzaldua says, "I'm lost." kokhmmm says, "James, I think we can appoint
to a vacant seat with time remaining." Strangelv-3 says, "Appointing a
candidate, but how about the way it was doen with the seat that I got in
2006: hold the election, then appoint the runner up to the unexpired term?"
kokhmmm says, "But we can also decide who gets the 1 year term by how many
votes each gets." Lunadyne says, "James, Al Anzaldua is not yet a Board
member, but we invited him to participate in the meetings as grooming for
this election. Ben's seat is up for re-election, Ron's seat has been
vacated and needs to be filled for one year, and Fred's seat is vacant and
up for a two-year term." kokhmmm says, "Yes, that works, James - comes down
to what I said" Strangelv-3 says, "Okay. That explains my confusion. By
that measure, we should have appainted Al already" kokhmmm says, "James, Al
didn't have his year in until this month" kokhmmm says, "So we can appoint
him now, and have only the 2 year seats up for grabs" lesausl says, "There
is really too much angst here. The bylaws are not perfect and they perhaps
should be amended after the election. For now, I am ok with simply allowing
Alan S. to run. If the results iof the last election are any clue, no one
is going to notice the membership issue - we just have to be faithful about
clarifying tit for future." Strangelv-3 says, "That sounds good to me than
what I see what's going on" Lunadyne says, "When was the last time TMS had
a contested board election?" kokhmmm says, "Scotty, do we need to convene
the Board to decide this? I think what we have to do is clear, and there
should be no need to convene the 3 board members we have." Strangelv-3
says, "2006 or 2007?" kokhmmm says, "Ken, a few years!" Strangelv-3 says,
"Longer ago than it should be" kokhmmm says, "So this is good!" Strangelv-3
says, "2006 was heavily contested" kokhmmm says, "If we appoint Al then we
have 3 candidates for 2 seats rather than 4 for 3" Strangelv-3 says, "And
keeps the elecihton simple as both open seats are interchangeable" kokhmmm
says, "Yup" Lunadyne says, "Agreed, but we'd have a four-person board until
after the votes are counted. It could stalemate us for a month or two, but
that's a risk I'm willing to live with." pjbanyai says, "I think we should
get a kindle version of Robert's (Most Recent) Rules for all Board
Members:-)" lesausl says, "AMEN TO THAT PAUL!!" alanzaldua says, "I will be
happy with whatever you guys want to do to simplify things. " lesausl says,
"That and a copy of the budget. . ." Lunadyne says, "Budget?" Strangelv-3
has seen how Robert's can go horribly wrong, unfortunately. The LNC had
members who used technicalities lurking in Robert's to bypass the bylaws
Lunadyne says, "All income - no expenditure without great pain. That's my
budget." lesausl says, "You kniw, how much money we have. . .how much we've
spent. . . How much we owe. . .things like that." kokhmmm says, "Seems that
we already have reached a consensus. Appoint Al to Ron Brooks seat and have
Ben and the two new people run for the ramainging two." Scottyg says, "We
only need to convene the board if we want to do a waiver." dcarson says, "
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9097" dcarson says, "etext of roberts
rules" Strangelv-3 says, "I believe the majority is in place to grant that
waiver" Lunadyne says, "The three Board members are all here. Do y'all want
to convene?" lesausl says, "Y not?" pjbanyai says, "Most recent updated
version was a few months ago. There is now a special supplement available
to help make sense of it." Lunadyne says, "That's a Yes from Bryce. Ben and
Jason?" Chard-1 says, "Yes" Lunadyne says, "Ben would make it unanimous..."
bnault says, "yes" Lunadyne says, "Okay, sounds like the Board is convened.
First topic. Appointment of Al Anzaldua to the position vacated by Ron
Brooks. Discussion?" Chard-1 nods his head in favor. kokhmmm says, "My 2
cents is that Al has been doing an outstanding job as an observor." lesausl
says, "I nominate Alfrd Anzaldua to the Borard Of Directors." Lunadyne
says, "So moved. Second?" bnault says, "just to clarify - the appointment
is for the remaining term: one yr" kokhmmm says, "Yup" Lunadyne says,
"That's my understanding." lesausl says, "(We're getting short on time
here)" Lunadyne says, "Second?" kokhmmm says, "One year plus 3 months (it
is not August yet)" bnault says, "I nominate Al Anzaldua to complete the
BOD term of Ron Brooks." Lunadyne says, "Seconded. In favor?" Chard-1 says,
"Aye" bnault says, "aye" lesausl says, "Aye" Lunadyne says, "So moved.
Welcome aboard, Al." Strangelv-3 claps. kokhmmm says, "Hooray. Three cheers
for Al!" Chard-1 claps. alanzaldua says, "Thank you all, gentlemen." bnault
says, "Welcome!" pjbanyai launches fireworks!!! alanzaldua says, "I am
celebrating!" lesausl says, "Feel a sudden surge of power coursing
throughtyour veins yet, Al?" alanzaldua says, "Indeed!" Lunadyne says,
"Second topic. Waiver of Alan Steiberg's brief lapse in membership as a
potential issue in his candidacy. Discussion?" kokhmmm says, "In the June
issue, I will report this, and use your statement to introduce you."
Strangelv-3 cues the power up animation and music kokhmmm looks for the
Cmapgne and the corkscrew lesausl says, "I support the waiver. With the
stipulationwe commit to rectifying Bylaws to cover this type of scebnario
in future." Lunadyne says, "I'm feeling a bit of chaos and thinking of
introducing a movement that the Board consider appointing a long overdue
Chairman." kokhmmm says, "Gentlemen, we now have to Board members from
Tucson!" Lunadyne says, "Still, the issue on the floor is Alan's brief
lapse. We've got 5 minutes." kokhmmm says, "This is fitting, as Tucson was
the birthplace of the old L5 Society that started it all." bnault says, "I
move that given his prior time as a MS member that, exceptionally, the
Board confirm Alan Steinberg's eligibility to run for the Board."
alanzaldua says, "Someday we may have a MS chapter here. " Lunadyne says,
"We've got an Outpost, right...?" lesausl says, "I second the motion RE
Alan Steinberg." kokhmmm says, "Al you have two members so you are an
outpost" Lunadyne says, "Moved and seconded. In favor?" bnault says, "aye"
Chard-1 says, "aye" lesausl says, "Aye" alanzaldua says, "aye. (Ican vote
now.)" Lunadyne says, "Whew. There was a pause after two that had me
worried for second..." Lunadyne says, "Any other issues that the Board
wishes to address?" lesausl says, "Dramatic license." Chard-1 says, "did
everyonre receive the email i forwarded about what the CPA I found is
needing?" kokhmmm says, "HoorY, KEN, i will write this up (Al and the
ballot) for MMM and then release it on email to All Current members. "
Lunadyne says, "Bryce wishes to address the Board's Dramatic license..."
Chard-1 says, "I would think him or any other CPA will require the same
information" kokhmmm | We still need to pick an election secretary, some
one who is not running lesausl says, "I do?" Scottyg says, "Yes Jason. Did
he understand that what we need fixed is filing 990n's for the two missing
years?" Lunadyne says, "Yes Jason, I got it." dcarson says, "yes Jason,
I'll email him the info soon" Chard-1 says, "yes" Lunadyne says, "Kidding,
Bryce." Chard-1 says, "ok great Dana" dcarson says, "thanks for finding
him" lesausl says, "Whew. . .that was close!" Lunadyne says, "There
appearing to be no other business before the Board (other than the tabled
need to appoint a Chair), do I have a motion to adjourn the Board?" kokhmmm
says, "We still have to pick an election secretary but we can do that next
meeting." bnault says, "I move that the BOD meeting of May 16 2012 be
closed." kokhmmm says, "secon" Lunadyne says, "In favor?" Chard-1 says,
"aye" alanzaldua says, "aye" kokhmmm says, "aye" bnault says, "aye" lesausl
says, "\Aye" lesausl says, "This was fun. Congrats Al!" Lunadyne says,
"Wow. I've got such a great Board to work with. Back to the Leadership
meeting, anything else in our last 30 seconds?" alanzaldua says, "Thanks!"
Lunadyne says, "It does help simplify the election a bit." kokhmmm says,
"We're doing great!" bnault says, "a bit of news..." Strangelv-3 says,
"This is why we pay our directors the big bucks." Lunadyne says, "lol!"
Scottyg says, "Ken, historically most board meetings go like this one. The
discussions have already been held and all that needs to be done is to take
a vote." Strangelv-3 look at Ben bnault says, "NSS will be awarding the
Chapter Award to the Tucson Space Society, currently led by Al....!" bnault
says, "at ISDC" Strangelv-3 cheers loudly. Chard-1 says, "^^ excellent!"
Lunadyne says, "Sounds like someone's karma is on a major good flow!"
kokhmmm says, "Hooray! Congrats, Al!" alanzaldua says, "Aw, gosh..."
kokhmmm says, "The cork is popped!" lesausl says, "And still no pizza. . .
!" alanzaldua says, "Unfortunately, I cannot attend. Ben and I are making
an acceptance video." bnault says, "Al has asked Dave Dunlop to accept the
award for us - since no one from Tucson can be in DC" alanzaldua says,
"Dave will do a great job, I'm sure. " kokhmmm says, "Dave was recently at
Al/s home." alanzaldua says, "Long discussions into the night...." Lunadyne
says, "I was planning on skipping that dinner, as I will once again not be
getting the only award in which I'm interested - that Pioneer Award pewter
Lunar globe." kokhmmm says, "With Dave, there is no such thing as a short
discussion." alanzaldua says, ":)" Lunadyne says, "Dave Dressler has asked
me about helping him out with the 2013 Hospitality party." Lunadyne says,
"I seem to have a gift for space parties..." kokhmmm says, "I'll let you
play with mine, Ken (got it at ISDC 98)" kokhmmm says, "Pewter lunar globe"
Lunadyne says, "Don't worry, I understood you. I want one to put in the
permanent collection of the Lunar Library." lesausl says, "Gentlemen I am
going to sign off if there is no significant business to discuss." kokhmmm
says, "See you next time Bryce!" alanzaldua says, "Bye Bryce." lesausl
says, "Groovy. G'nite all!" Chard-1 says, "goodnight" lesausl has
disconnected. Strangelv-3 looks at the guy with the gavel bnault says, "it
is past time, I move that we end the meeting." kokhmmm says, "secomd"
Lunadyne says, "I was just working on that." Lunadyne says, "In favor?"
kokhmmm says, "aye" bnault says, "aye" alanzaldua says, "aye" Chard-1 says,
"aye" Strangelv-3 says, "and that's a non-debateabel motion" pjbanyai says,
"yes" pjbanyai says, "aye" Lunadyne says, "Meeting adjourned." kokhmmm
says, "good night all" bnault says, "good night!" kokhmmm says, "2quit"
kokhmmm has disconnected. alanzaldua says, "Good night all, and thanks for
letting me in the club. " 
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