Town Meeting Log March 11, 2009

[3:10:42 PM] *** Charles F. Radley added Peter Kokh to this chat

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[7:12:21 PM] *** Charles F. Radley added James Rogers, mike.delaney16, James Gholston to this chat

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[7:12:22 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Hi

[7:12:40 PM] Charles F. Radley says: OK, I am going to drop off and head home.  Will request reconnect in an hour or two.  Thanks,  CFR.

[7:18:19 PM] Peter Kokh says: I am online now

[7:19:46 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Hi Peter

[7:20:02 PM] Peter Kokh says: Hi, I am adding people to my contacts list now

[7:20:36 PM] Charles F. Radley says: cool

[7:21:59 PM] Peter Kokh says: Dave will try to join us later

[7:22:11 PM] Peter Kokh says: Fred will try to koin us also

[7:22:50 PM] Peter Kokh says: Three people from Phoenix, one from Houston chapters will try to join us

[7:23:16 PM] Charles F. Radley says: cool

[7:23:26 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Well I will have to dodge the bears on my drive home... http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2009/03/another_bear_spotted_in_washin.html

[7:23:59 PM] Peter Kokh says: Don't hit any! especially any cubs!

[7:27:18 PM] Shaun Moss says: hi Peter

[7:27:55 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Yeah if I hit a cub the parents will be very upset with me....

[7:28:13 PM] Peter Kokh says: Me too!

[7:28:48 PM] Shaun Moss says: man, I can't imagine living somewhere with bears around!

[7:29:01 PM] James Gholston says: "Could someone invite Scotty into this discussion?

[7:29:23 PM] Shaun Moss says: I don't have his Skype

[7:29:48 PM] Charles F. Radley says: a few years ago, a bear wandered 50 kilometres, clear across the metro Portland city, crossing two rivers, and several freeways...there were sightings, and the newspaper reported it daily progress on a city map

[7:30:02 PM] Shaun Moss says: awesome

[7:30:24 PM] Peter Kokh says: His skype name is scottygamm

[7:30:29 PM] Shaun Moss says: I mean, we have crocs and sharks, but they don't wander around on the road

[7:30:54 PM] Charles F. Radley says: we have lots of deer all over USA which are a traffic hazard, there is a deer population explosion

[7:31:12 PM] *** Shaun Moss added Scotty Gammenthaler to this chat

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[7:31:30 PM] pj.hultstrand says: I bet those crocs and sharks could take care of those deer population.

[7:31:35 PM] Shaun Moss says: lol

[7:31:36 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Scotty needs to change his settings to enable chat

[7:31:53 PM] James Gholston says: "Actually, he made the mistake of installing version 4

[7:32:02 PM] Charles F. Radley says: oh

[7:32:14 PM] James Gholston says: "Which we completely forgot to warn people about

[7:32:22 PM] James Gholston says: "That the newest stable verison is useless

[7:32:25 PM] Shaun Moss says: what's the diff?

[7:32:50 PM] James Gholston says: 3 allows gloup chat discussions

[7:32:57 PM] Charles F. Radley says: oh I did nto know that

[7:33:01 PM] James Gholston says: The MS Windows version of 4 evidentyl doesn't

[7:33:12 PM] James Gholston says: "I'd completely forgotten

[7:33:32 PM] Peter Kokh says: Can you quick get Scotty to uninstall 4 and install 3?

[7:33:35 PM] Shaun Moss says: I'm on Ubuntu now

[7:33:38 PM] James Gholston is using version 2.x -- that's what was available in the repositories he could apt-get install from



[7:33:39 PM] Shaun Moss says: will do

[7:35:00 PM] James Gholston : You say, "Scotty, did you get a message when you were dropped out of the group chat session you were invited into?"



[7:35:01 PM] Shaun Moss says: I haven't a clue whcih v I have, but I installed from package mgr as well

[7:35:19 PM] James Gholston : Scottyg says, "No, I just got individual messages from Dana and Shaun."



[7:35:42 PM] Charles F. Radley says: gotta drop now, back in an hour

[7:35:47 PM] *** Charles F. Radley left this chat

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[7:36:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: np

[7:39:55 PM] James Gholston : dcarson says, "is Shaun shaunmoss or shaun.moss.1 ?"



[7:40:02 PM] Shaun Moss says: shaun.moss1

[7:41:10 PM] Peter Kokh says: Its cold here, down to !0 F tonight

[7:41:25 PM] James Gholston says: "oof

[7:41:33 PM] Shaun Moss says: holy cow

[7:41:40 PM] James Gholston says: "It's a lot cooler here than 24 hours ago, but nowhere nearly that cool

[7:41:45 PM] tuttlepc says: 52 here

[7:41:49 PM] tuttlepc says: f

[7:42:01 PM] Shaun Moss says: what;s that, about -18C?

[7:42:07 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: I tell you what, it's a good thing Shaun & Charles were here at the helm, b/c evidently my perception of time has been warped along with my arm and posterior.  I just got off work.

[7:42:09 PM] Peter Kokh says: Its nothing really, just dress accodingly

[7:42:16 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: no- that's about 17C

[7:42:23 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: maybe 18C

[7:42:43 PM] Shaun Moss says: oh, I thought he said 0F

[7:42:45 PM] Peter Kokh says: no -12C

[7:42:50 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: OH

[7:42:53 PM] Peter Kokh says: 10 F

[7:43:00 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: jeez that *is* COLD

[7:43:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: wow

[7:43:40 PM] Shaun Moss says: what's Dana's Skype id?

[7:43:46 PM] Peter Kokh says: Not really - we are hardy people - don't understand how sunbelt softies want to go to Mars where it is much colder

[7:43:53 PM] pj.hultstrand says: In Arizona it's balmy 78 degrees and it's 5:43.

[7:44:14 PM] Peter Kokh says: danacarson

[7:44:42 PM] *** Shaun Moss added Dana Carson to this chat

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[7:44:53 PM] Shaun Moss says: hey Dana

[7:44:54 PM] Peter Kokh says: Have to dresss right. I have to wear socks to take out the trash

[7:46:26 PM] pj.hultstrand says: Same thing for summer months in Arizona. Can fry your feet walking outside without at least socks on.

[7:47:01 PM] Shaun Moss says: I have not experienced Melbourne winter yet, but I'm told it's pretty intense

[7:47:03 PM] Peter Kokh says: lol

[7:47:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: we had a heat wave this summer though, with T reaching 46C

[7:47:46 PM] Shaun Moss says: (115F)

[7:47:55 PM] James Gholston says: That's pretty bad, yes

[7:48:11 PM] James Gholston says: That's about the worst I've had as an official temperture

[7:48:21 PM] pj.hultstrand says: We had a cold spell last summer and hit 122 in the shade.

[7:48:22 PM] Shaun Moss says: that, along with the longest drought on record, is what preciptated the fires

[7:48:36 PM] Peter Kokh says: 32C is about as warm as it gets here, occasionaly about 3 degrees higher, but not every year

[7:48:39 PM] James Gholston says: "although I've briefly been outside in a spot that was 135 F in downtown Ft Worth in the 1980s

[7:49:05 PM] Peter Kokh says: That's why I don't live in Texas!

[7:49:25 PM] James Gholston says: It normally doesn't get THAT far above 100 F

[7:49:25 PM] Peter Kokh says: You're all set for Venus, James!

[7:49:33 PM] Shaun Moss says: lol

[7:49:44 PM] pj.hultstrand says: That's why my ex lives in Texas.

[7:49:44 PM] Shaun Moss says: or lunar daytime

[7:50:01 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: LOL

[7:50:09 PM] James Gholston says: "Air Conditioning isn't a luxucy item here

[7:50:28 PM] James Gholston says: It's kind of a necessity

[7:50:41 PM] pj.hultstrand says: A/C is an absolute. Some older folks die in August in Arizona.

[7:50:42 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yup Texans and AZers spend more on AC than we do on winter heating!

[7:50:43 PM] James Gholston says: Something Europe learned the hard way a couple of summers ago

[7:51:24 PM] Peter Kokh says: You can always put on more layers of clothing. You can only take off so many!

[7:51:38 PM] dacarson says: very true

[7:51:51 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: Detroit & Chicago too... too much asphault(sp?), you know.

[7:51:56 PM] pj.hultstrand says: LOL --

[7:52:17 PM] pj.hultstrand says: Except in private of course.

[7:52:29 PM] Peter Kokh says: Actually the big cities are warmer than surrounding countryside all seasons

[7:52:43 PM] Shaun Moss says: is that because of thermal inversion

[7:53:03 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: it's pretty hard to peel off epidermal tissue... it just doesn't come off like Kleenex.  :O/

[7:53:12 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: whaddayagonnado?

[7:53:22 PM] dacarson says: all the thermal mass of concrete and asphalt

[7:53:30 PM] Shaun Moss says: makes sense

[7:53:44 PM] dacarson says: and less plants and open water to cool bt evaporation

[7:53:59 PM] Peter Kokh says: brb

[7:54:03 PM] pj.hultstrand says: I saw the Watchmen this weekend and saw lots of epidermal tissue.

[7:54:22 PM] Peter Kokh says: You didn't cover your eyes?

[7:54:28 PM] James Gholston doesn't want spoilers for the changed ending if they can be avoided



[7:55:07 PM] Shaun Moss says: what does Dave have to change in his settings so he can join the char?

[7:55:21 PM] Shaun Moss says: *chat

[7:55:23 PM] pj.hultstrand says: What changed ending?  heheeee.

[7:55:24 PM] James Gholston says: What version is he using?

[7:55:40 PM] James Gholston says: I've been reading that they changed the ending for the movie version

[7:55:51 PM] Shaun Moss says: I had to walk out of Watchmen

[7:56:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: too violent for my sensibilites

[7:56:25 PM] James Gholston says: Something irked you?  something too changed from the original story?

[7:56:30 PM] James Gholston says: oh

[7:56:42 PM] Shaun Moss says: I am not conditioned for that intensity of imagery!

[7:57:10 PM] pj.hultstrand says: How young are you Shawn?

[7:57:23 PM] Shaun Moss says: hehe is that a compliment?  37

[7:57:47 PM] pj.hultstrand says: You know they a graphic novel for a reason?

[7:58:10 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes

[7:59:25 PM] pj.hultstrand says: Although the story itself was very well written, the imagery did leave us quite shocked.

[7:59:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: is there an agenda for today's meeting?

[7:59:37 PM] Peter Kokh says: Shaun is trying to get Dave Dunlop into the meeting

[7:59:47 PM] James Gholston says: "Let me guess.  He installed version 4

[8:00:04 PM] Peter Kokh says: No agenda, anyone can bring up anything but let's keep it about things relevant to the Moon Society

[8:00:07 PM] Shaun Moss says: he hasn't told me yet

[8:00:15 PM] Peter Kokh says: Dave has 2.6

[8:00:19 PM] James Gholston says: "oh good

[8:00:25 PM] James Gholston says: That should work

[8:00:26 PM] Peter Kokh says: I just had him check

[8:00:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: but Charles mentioned it's necessary to change certain settings in order to enter messages

[8:00:57 PM] James Gholston says: :: is running 2.0

[8:01:05 PM] Peter Kokh says: enable group chatt - but mine came enabled I guess because I didn't have to "enable" it

[8:01:18 PM] James Gholston says: I don't remember needing to enable it either

[8:01:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: me either

[8:01:55 PM] Shaun Moss says: quick q, is anyone a member of the planetary society?

[8:01:58 PM] Peter Kokh says: Dave does not show up as online. Maybe that's it.

[8:02:10 PM] James Rogers says: I'm here

[8:02:14 PM] Shaun Moss says: hey JR

[8:02:16 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yes, I am, forever, or for decades

[8:02:28 PM] Peter Kokh says: Hi, JR

[8:02:32 PM] *** Shaun Moss added Don Jacques to this chat

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[8:02:41 PM] Shaun Moss says: hey Don

[8:02:42 PM] Peter Kokh says: Hi, Don

[8:02:52 PM] Don Jacques says: Hi -

[8:02:54 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: "...let's keep it about things relevant to the Moon Society" says its President in an attempt to keep up with his New Year's Resolution of "staying simultaneously relaxed and on track"

[8:03:12 PM] Shaun Moss says: Annie was it you that got bitten by a dog?

[8:03:15 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: who is also the (Veep? Treasurer?) of the Mars Society

[8:03:18 PM] *** James Rogers added Niklas J‰rvstrÂt to this chat

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[8:03:20 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: Yes, that was me

[8:03:23 PM] Don Jacques says: Whats up about leaving MST off the time list of the meeting announcment?

[8:03:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: wow, looked pretty bad

[8:03:36 PM] Shaun Moss says: oooh I was wondering if I would get caught on that!

[8:03:39 PM] Shaun Moss says: sorry!

[8:03:46 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: huh?

[8:03:47 PM] Shaun Moss says: next time I will remember

[8:03:52 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum is clueless



[8:03:54 PM] Don Jacques says: You are forgiven

[8:04:04 PM] Peter Kokh says: I wasn't aware that I did, but, lacking a whip, I can't beat myself

[8:04:05 PM] Shaun Moss says: Annie: talking about MST

[8:04:06 PM] James Gholston says: "Scotty now has version 3

[8:04:18 PM] Peter Kokh says: Great

[8:04:48 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: yes I am referring to MST.  what's the acronym stand for anyway?

[8:04:50 PM] *** Shaun Moss has changed the chat topic to "Moon Society Town Meeting"

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[8:04:54 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: oh

[8:04:56 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: duh

[8:05:04 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum rolls eyes at self



[8:05:06 PM] James Gholston says: "and it's Daylight time now, I believ

[8:05:15 PM] Shaun Moss says: Mountain Standard Time

[8:05:19 PM] Don Jacques says: well, suns still out for a little while for now

[8:05:19 PM] James Gholston says: "could someone invite david.wetnight ?

[8:05:52 PM] *** Shaun Moss added david.wetnight to this chat

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[8:05:58 PM] James Gholston says: "They changed things.  DAylight time now starts earlier in the year and ends later.  Standard time is now a time used only rarely around the change of the year

[8:06:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: do we have Scotty in the chat now?

[8:06:22 PM] *** Dana Carson added Scotty Gammenthaler to this chat

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[8:07:12 PM] Dana Carson says: Scotty you here?

[8:07:29 PM] Shaun Moss says: Moon to Scotty, come in Scotty...

[8:07:43 PM] david.wetnight says: hello everyone

[8:07:46 PM] Don Jacques says: hes beaming up kirk

[8:07:48 PM] Shaun Moss says: Hi David

[8:07:57 PM] Shaun Moss says: @Don lol

[8:08:04 PM] Peter Kokh says: I tried to talk to Dave Wetnight he is online

[8:08:20 PM] Peter Kokh says: Hi, Dave

[8:08:35 PM] Scotty Gammenthaler says: Ok, I think I'm here now.

[8:08:42 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: I'm signing up for insurance through FIS; my neighbor will be covering the deductible.

[8:08:57 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: resulting from the dog bites

[8:09:22 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: Hello Dave

[8:09:39 PM] Shaun Moss says: where is the "enable group chat" option?

[8:11:46 PM] Don Jacques says: Is it possible to go Audio for everyone?

[8:11:53 PM] Dana Carson says: not me

[8:12:00 PM] Don Jacques says: just curious

[8:12:22 PM] Scotty Gammenthaler says: Not me.  Can't find my microphone.

[8:12:49 PM] Shaun Moss says: still having trouble getting D Dunlop into the chat - any ideas?

[8:13:37 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Looks like Dunlop has his settings on AWAY. Needs to change to online.

[8:14:06 PM] Don Jacques says: Has a closing time for the meeting been set?

[8:14:14 PM] Peter Kokh says: dave shows online

[8:14:25 PM] Shaun Moss says: shows online to me also

[8:14:48 PM] Peter Kokh says: hi  Dave

[8:15:11 PM] David A Dunlop says: I am now seeing the other people's comments

[8:15:12 PM] Peter Kokh says: He says he can see every one now (told me on phone)

[8:15:16 PM] Shaun Moss says: yay!

[8:15:18 PM] Peter Kokh says: Hooray!

[8:15:47 PM] Shaun Moss says: I'm glad we were all quite early so we could solve these technical problems

[8:15:49 PM] Peter Kokh says: Okay, who has a Moon Society related question or topic or suggestion?

[8:16:06 PM] Shaun Moss says: do we want to wait 45 minutes until official start?

[8:16:15 PM] Shaun Moss says: or am I off by 1 hour?

[8:16:21 PM] Peter Kokh says: Official start was 16 minutes ago

[8:16:25 PM] Shaun Moss says: ah

[8:16:26 PM] Don Jacques says: I second

[8:16:30 PM] David A Dunlop says: Well I think the Moon Society just creawled into the 21st century if I am any example

[8:16:40 PM] Shaun Moss says: I guess that means all the times in my email were wrong then?

[8:16:42 PM] Don Jacques says: Hear hear

[8:16:42 PM] Peter Kokh says: lol

[8:17:17 PM] James Rogers says: welcome to the future  lol

[8:17:25 PM] Don Jacques says: back again!

[8:17:32 PM] Peter Kokh says: Maybe the mixup is that since Saturday night we in the USA switched to daylight savings time

[8:17:36 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes I see

[8:17:38 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: *snicker*

[8:17:46 PM] Don Jacques says: Hey, we didn't in AZ

[8:17:46 PM] Shaun Moss says: it has always been at 13:00 for me, but today it is 12:00

[8:18:12 PM] Peter Kokh says: But you are in summer, Shaun!

[8:18:18 PM] Shaun Moss says: indeed

[8:18:20 PM] Shaun Moss says: we are on DST

[8:18:22 PM] James Gholston says: My operating system doesn't warn me.  It just changes the time silently leaving me oblivious and prone to making errors accordingly

[8:18:33 PM] Don Jacques says: I propose we start with meeting protocols?

[8:18:40 PM] Shaun Moss says: that's the role of any good operating system

[8:18:47 PM] Shaun Moss says: agree with Don

[8:19:02 PM] Shaun Moss says: Charles asked if I wanted to chair and I have agreed

[8:19:13 PM] Don Jacques says: The messages can scroll across VERY fast, so some way of keeping track for all

[8:19:15 PM] Shaun Moss says: but this is my first time so forgive me if I don't do it perfectly

[8:19:20 PM] Peter Kokh says: Shaun is a born leader

[8:19:30 PM] Shaun Moss says: Skype will record our chat history automatically

[8:19:38 PM] David A Dunlop says: Will he record show that Shaun is baning on the gavel to start?

[8:19:57 PM] Don Jacques says: if he ads an emoticon

[8:20:07 PM] Don Jacques says: (flex)

[8:20:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: <banging>

[8:20:50 PM] Shaun Moss says: welcome to the nth official Moon Society Town Meeting

[8:21:06 PM] Peter Kokh says: The third one

[8:21:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: we are now taking proposals for agenda items from the floor

[8:21:09 PM] Don Jacques says: Note that you can see who is writing by glancing into the list of the people in the chat.

[8:21:10 PM] Shaun Moss says: n = 3

[8:21:45 PM] Don Jacques says: Perhaps first on the agenda - a tour of skype so we can know how to better know what is currently happening.

[8:21:55 PM] Shaun Moss says: good idea

[8:21:57 PM] Peter Kokh says: Great idea

[8:22:34 PM] Shaun Moss says: I would also like to discuss recruiting today.  We have some great energy and momentum going this year, let's use that to swell our numbers.

[8:22:41 PM] David A Dunlop says: I see the name of the person makng the comment but I don't see a list of people in the chat anywhere

[8:23:13 PM] Shaun Moss says: click the blue arrow

[8:23:14 PM] Don Jacques says: Select options on menu, view participants, select compact

[8:23:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: near where you type

[8:23:25 PM] Peter Kokh says: Dave in the upper right corner of this window you will see a red and a gray arrowPress one and see what happens

[8:23:31 PM] Scotty Gammenthaler says: Options -> View Participants -> Compact

[8:23:38 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Recruiting would be a great topic. But, how about fund raising.

[8:23:46 PM] Shaun Moss says: let's add that item also

[8:24:12 PM] Shaun Moss says: does anyone want to discuss the new website design?

[8:24:33 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: National or local?

[8:24:40 PM] Peter Kokh says: Also retention. We have as many dropping out as coming in and the economy may be the reason

[8:24:54 PM] Shaun Moss says: great

[8:25:00 PM] Peter Kokh says: Let's leave the website for the regular meeting next week

[8:25:03 PM] Shaun Moss says: I will add that to recruiting

[8:25:06 PM] Shaun Moss says: ok

[8:25:07 PM] Scotty Gammenthaler says: I've been working on a CSS-only version of the page template but don't have it completely working.

[8:25:41 PM] Peter Kokh says: WIP is still progress

[8:25:43 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Don't think economy has anything to do with people dropping hobby based group participation. Besides it doesn't cost too much to be member.

[8:26:16 PM] Peter Kokh says: For some this is an issue. For myself, I will have to drop some less important memberships.

[8:26:46 PM] Shaun Moss says: even though this is only a town meeting, may I suggest that we adhere to an agenda within reason, then address each item one at a time?

[8:27:02 PM] Don Jacques says: I second that motion

[8:27:03 PM] Peter Kokh says: let's try that

[8:27:15 PM] Shaun Moss says: if there are no other suggestions for specific items, then I will paste the agenda, we can complete that then have a free-for-all

[8:27:17 PM] Don Jacques says: It will help us all keep track of the current conversation

[8:27:22 PM] James Rogers says: you're the chair.  i'm not sure you have to "suggest" anything  lol

[8:27:43 PM] Shaun Moss says: 3rd Moon Society Town Meeting - 2009-03-12

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Agenda



1. Tour of Skype.

2. Recruiting and retention.

3. Fund-raising.

[8:27:44 PM] Don Jacques says: Rules of order still apply - we are civilized, right?

[8:27:54 PM] Shaun Moss says: in Australia we pretend to be :)

[8:28:17 PM] Shaun Moss says: item 1 - Tour of Skype

[8:28:37 PM] Don Jacques says: Point of order?

[8:28:41 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes

[8:29:11 PM] Don Jacques says: Is there any practicallity to "raising hands" to be recognized by chair to prevent a free-for all?

[8:29:26 PM] Don Jacques says: and having messages scroll too fast to follow

[8:29:36 PM] Shaun Moss says: let's just monitor it

[8:29:42 PM] Don Jacques says: ok

[8:29:49 PM] Shaun Moss says: if it gets too crazy then we will take measures

[8:30:01 PM] Shaun Moss says: is everyone familiar with how to add contacts in Skype?

[8:30:16 PM] Don Jacques says: :)

[8:30:27 PM] Peter Kokh says: I am

[8:30:48 PM] Don Jacques says: Perhaps the question is:  Is there anyone who DOESN'T know?

[8:30:55 PM] Shaun Moss says: on my version (Ubuntu, v2 I think), there is an icon with a green plus in the lower-right corner

[8:31:06 PM] Shaun Moss says: good point Don

[8:31:08 PM] James Rogers says: Should I give the crashj course, with details?

[8:31:20 PM] Shaun Moss says: go for it James

[8:31:48 PM] James Rogers says: ZIf you look in your right hand menu, beside every person there are three possible icons

[8:32:10 PM] James Rogers says: one is a green check, for online contacts.  Another is a grey X, for offline contacts

[8:32:29 PM] James Rogers says: The lasy is a grey question mark, for people who are not yet your contacts

[8:32:35 PM] James Rogers says: *last

[8:32:50 PM] James Rogers says: if you move your mouse over one of the Questionab;le

[8:33:04 PM] David A Dunlop says: I saw windows appear with name and ust clicked ok but I clicked on an ? with scotty's name and rang his phone so I guess I haven't quite mastered it

[8:33:07 PM] James Rogers says: people, you will often see a green plus sign on a button

[8:33:31 PM] James Rogers says: this will allow you to add them by clicking the button

[8:33:49 PM] Peter Kokh says: I have a gray question after Fred Hills, but he is only listed because I added him.

[8:34:02 PM] Peter Kokh says: Ditto Mike Delaney

[8:34:13 PM] Shaun Moss says: the blue icon is for text chat, green telephone is for audio/video

[8:34:42 PM] Shaun Moss says: it may be that Fred has not reciprocated your Add

[8:34:44 PM] James Rogers says: lets not get ahead of them quite yet, shaun  :D

[8:34:46 PM] *** Scotty Gammenthaler added Charles F. Radley to this chat

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[8:34:54 PM] Shaun Moss says: sorry James - you have the mic

[8:34:57 PM] Charles F. Radley says: hi

[8:35:08 PM] James Rogers says: A person will not show up in your contacts until they add the approval

[8:35:28 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: hi Charles!

[8:35:30 PM] Shaun Moss says: Charles, we are on item 1 of the agenda, intro to Skype

[8:35:48 PM] Shaun Moss says: James is providing a tutorial

[8:36:27 PM] James Rogers says: if you do not see the green plus on one of the questionables, you will have to click the menu option on the far right, and there will be an option listed there.  Those people do not accept contacts and they will have to add you instead, so you must request it

[8:37:00 PM] *** James Gholston added Rosalie Dieteman to this chat

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[8:37:34 PM] James Rogers says: If you have general information about a person., but are not speaking to them in a chat you can add them via the main skype screen

[8:37:56 PM] James Rogers says: Simply click "Tools" and choose "Add a contact"

[8:38:08 PM] *** Shaun Moss added Adriano Autino to this chat

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[8:38:33 PM] rosalie.dieteman says: thanks for invite

[8:38:34 PM] Shaun Moss says: you can also drag and drop from your contacts list into the conference

[8:38:47 PM] James Rogers says: indeed.

[8:39:08 PM] *** Charles F. Radley added Caliendo Domenico, Anton Volkonskiy, Benny, Martin Joseph Dudziak, Mary Moore 2007, Mark Posen to this chat

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[8:39:14 PM] Charles F. Radley says: I added a few SRI people

[8:39:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: thanks Charles

[8:39:52 PM] Shaun Moss says: how is everybody going with Skype now?  any questions at this point?

[8:39:57 PM] James Rogers says: and you can talk to any online contact in any menu by clicking on them once and choosing either the green phone for audio, or the blue chat for text.   right clicking will give you additional options

[8:40:28 PM] rosalie.dieteman says: sometime this week, i've gotta get rid of that annoying pop/swoop noice

[8:41:23 PM] James Rogers says: And thats the end of the tutorial.  any questions?

[8:42:09 PM] Shaun Moss says: where do you change sounds, James?

[8:42:43 PM] James Rogers says: Tools>Options>Sounds

[8:42:52 PM] rosalie.dieteman says: tyvm

[8:43:02 PM] James Rogers says: You can mute sounds, switch them around, or import your own

[8:43:20 PM] Shaun Moss says: I don't have this - such is the price of Linux

[8:43:44 PM] James Rogers says: Could be worse.  You could be using a Mac with no right mouse button

[8:43:50 PM] Dana Carson says: Preferences>Notifications on OS X

[8:44:12 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Ha ha.

[8:44:14 PM] James Gholston says: "I'm sure we'll eventually have a newer version than 2.0 available

[8:44:20 PM] Don Jacques says: down Patti

[8:44:34 PM] Shaun Moss says: one item I would like to add - if you ever want to start your own conference call, select the Skype icon in the lower-left corner of your main window, and select Start Conference Call

[8:45:25 PM] Peter Kokh says: No such icon on my Mac

[8:45:42 PM] Shaun Moss says: it may be different in other versions.

[8:46:01 PM] Peter Kokh says: I have a "start public chat" is that the same thing?

[8:46:01 PM] Shaun Moss says: when I say "main window", I mean your contacts list - not this chat window

[8:46:07 PM] Dana Carson says: but it is under the Call menu

[8:46:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: @Peter yes I believe so

[8:46:53 PM] Shaun Moss says: if everyone is satisfied with Skype for the moment, then we shall move onto item 2

[8:46:59 PM] Shaun Moss says: ok?

[8:47:03 PM] Peter Kokh says: yes

[8:47:04 PM] david.wetnight says: k

[8:47:12 PM] Shaun Moss says: Item 2 - Recruitment and Retention

[8:47:13 PM] Scotty Gammenthaler says: On mine, there is a "Conference" selection in the "Contacts" tab.

[8:47:54 PM] Shaun Moss says: we seem to have a lot more activity this year.  I propose that we make use of this energy and begin to get new people involved

[8:48:15 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yes, there is a lot going on now in the Society

[8:48:27 PM] Don Jacques says: Do you have a brief list, Peter?

[8:48:30 PM] Shaun Moss says: it's much easier to retain people when there is a lot of activity going on - very hard if not

[8:48:53 PM] James Gholston says: Is there a handy summary somewhere?  I don't have a complete picture

[8:49:01 PM] Peter Kokh says: working on an online kit for building your own solar power beaming emo

[8:49:14 PM] Peter Kokh says: redoing the website

[8:49:16 PM] Shaun Moss says: I think there is a need for something like this - a summary of current projects, perhaps on the home page?

[8:49:35 PM] Peter Kokh says: DD has an active experimental lunar ag project

[8:49:36 PM] James Gholston says: ...and remove thingns from it when they cease to be active...

[8:49:45 PM] Don Jacques says: Absolutely - and prominently displayed so visitors can find it easily

[8:49:51 PM] David A Dunlop says: I think that would attract the interest of people who wnatto participate.

[8:49:53 PM] James Rogers says: I never have a complete picture.  It would be nice to have people use the forum for this, as it would be dynamic

[8:49:58 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes - and "how to get involved" for each item

[8:50:10 PM] Peter Kokh says: I could move that to the top of the page when people click on projects

[8:50:23 PM] Don Jacques says: It should be on the FRONT page.

[8:50:25 PM] Martin Joseph Dudziak says: Hi, all, but you caught me by surprise.  I am about to head to bed - just want to share that SRI and certainly this member strongly supports Moon Society's efforts - "Go for it" in terms of educating and gaining the support of the public and people in industry/govt.!

[8:50:38 PM] Shaun Moss says: thanks Martin :)

[8:50:54 PM] David A Dunlop says: I think that a contact name associated with each project would allow people to plug into projects.

[8:51:03 PM] Peter Kokh says: Per request, I am revisiting my painting with regolith materials project of 15 years ago using potassium silicate as a medium instead of sodium silicate

[8:51:06 PM] James Rogers says: Thats a good idea, Dave

[8:51:06 PM] Shaun Moss says: agree - and perhaps also a dedicated forum or mailing list

[8:51:43 PM] James Rogers says: What we need is project coordinators/contacts

[8:52:00 PM] Peter Kokh says: We have dedicated forums for 5 of our 10 listed Project Teams

[8:52:01 PM] Don Jacques says: getting complicated here . . .

[8:52:04 PM] James Rogers says: People who are already at the center of each project to act as a contact

[8:52:24 PM] Peter Kokh says: Already in place JR

[8:52:25 PM] David A Dunlop says: We had a contact today from a journalist from India whi had seen the MMMIQ and wanted to join the MS and participate. So Peter and I both had a cance to respond to him.

[8:52:34 PM] Shaun Moss says: slow down, friends

[8:53:36 PM] Don Jacques says: backtracking - list activities on front page to get their attention

[8:53:36 PM] James Rogers says: Do we have those contacts listed, and would you like me to build a "projects" button for the website or would it be better done as a menu?

[8:53:44 PM] Shaun Moss says: in Melbourne we will be holding the first meeting of the Melbourne Space Club next month - this will function as the local Moon Society chapter

[8:54:17 PM] Peter Kokh says: Hooray!

[8:54:19 PM] Scotty Gammenthaler says: There is a "Projects" item on the Main Menu.

[8:54:41 PM] Peter Kokh says: Shaun keep me posted on your progress with that.

[8:54:46 PM] Shaun Moss says: will do

[8:55:04 PM] Shaun Moss says: could talk more about it but it can wait until later

[8:55:10 PM] Shaun Moss says: so let's recap:

[8:55:16 PM] Shaun Moss says: Current activities

- Online kit for building solar power beaming demo

- Website redesign

- Relationship with SRI

- Painting with regolith materials

- Experimental lunar agriculture project

- Links with India (MMMIQ, etc.)

- Establishing chapter in Australia

[8:55:43 PM] Don Jacques says: These are projects - not activities

[8:55:49 PM] Shaun Moss says: thank you

[8:55:58 PM] David A Dunlop says:    What is the distinction here?

[8:56:02 PM] Peter Kokh says: Define or give example of activity

[8:56:11 PM] Peter Kokh says: writing newsletter?

[8:56:16 PM] Don Jacques says: Projects are ongoing with group leaders etc

[8:56:23 PM] Peter Kokh says: blogging?

[8:56:28 PM] Don Jacques says: Activities are DESIGNED for public participation

[8:56:37 PM] Don Jacques says: ... or larger groups

[8:56:56 PM] Peter Kokh says: Okay, I have some suggestions on that line

[8:56:58 PM] Don Jacques says: Activities involve families as well as the general membership

[8:57:02 PM] Shaun Moss says: alright

[8:57:34 PM] David A Dunlop says:     I tihnk that if we designed our projects to e more interactive that we would gain more

[8:57:40 PM] David A Dunlop says: involvement

[8:57:41 PM] Peter Kokh says: I had wanted us to celebrate 2009 Internat. Astronomy year by putting together a pape ron telescopes onthe Moon

[8:57:56 PM] James Rogers says: I have a suggestion

[8:58:04 PM] Peter Kokh says: That would have inmite a lot of input

[8:58:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: that would be great, Peter, v interesting

[8:58:31 PM] Peter Kokh says: It's too late and all the logical people I asked to participate did not answer

[8:58:34 PM] Shaun Moss says: students are a good source of new members, so it's always worthwhile having projects or activities that they can get involved with

[8:58:42 PM] Don Jacques says: Interesting to those intersted in lunar astronomy

[8:58:59 PM] David A Dunlop says:      What was James suggestion?

[8:59:09 PM] Peter Kokh says: Don, I had asked the American Lunar Society - observers - no response

[8:59:14 PM] Don Jacques says: To attract new members not focused on a single element, the prospective member needs to see "near term" WIFM

[8:59:30 PM] Don Jacques says: WIFM - Whats In It For Me?

[8:59:42 PM] James Rogers says: We should have the local chapters contact their local astronomy clubs and take part in star parties and sidewalk astronomy activities

[9:00:12 PM] James Rogers says: This is an amazing public outreach tool

[9:00:22 PM] Peter Kokh says: Been down that road, interest is one way

[9:00:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: good idea - what if we made it more lunar-focused?

[9:00:26 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Have star parties worked in the past?

[9:00:36 PM] Shaun Moss says: i.e. moon parties

[9:00:38 PM] Don Jacques says: ..to retain members?

[9:01:03 PM] David A Dunlop says:       That sounds like a great summer time activity in July or August in Green Bay! At the moment it zero F.

[9:01:14 PM] Peter Kokh says: I wanted to start a sidewalk astronomy group focused on the Moon and got no interest

[9:01:17 PM] Peter Kokh says: and can't do it alone

[9:01:18 PM] Rosalie Dieteman says: too much light polution here... and this is a small town!  eventually we won't be able to see anything BUT the moon

[9:01:21 PM] James Rogers says: can we have one question at a time instead of 12?

[9:01:34 PM] James Rogers says: I cant keep up

[9:01:39 PM] Shaun Moss says: If you want to recruit and retain new members, I believe the key is online activity, such as we have had lately

[9:01:52 PM] Shaun Moss says: ok James

[9:01:54 PM] Don Jacques says: Proposal:  how about defining projects that go outside of our boundaries . . .

[9:02:03 PM] Shaun Moss says: let's focus on one thing

[9:02:34 PM] Don Jacques says: For example:  sponsor an RC contest to create construction bots, include a radio club to help with communications, and have local schools be the competitors

[9:02:35 PM] Shaun Moss says: what activities do we currently have that would encourage retention of new members?  then we can discuss whether we need other ones also

[9:03:29 PM] Peter Kokh says: Don, if you try this and succeed, please write a "how we did it" report so others can do likewise

[9:03:30 PM] Don Jacques says: Shaun:  Online activity will assist in retention I am sure, but I am not sure it is KEY element.

[9:03:32 PM] Shaun Moss says: does the new website have discussion forums?

[9:03:41 PM] James Rogers says: On peter's first try:  If the interest was one way, you weren't participating

[9:03:48 PM] Shaun Moss says: I am sure it is - but then, I am in an isolated location

[9:03:49 PM] Don Jacques says: It is a project on our list of 4 goals this year.

[9:04:04 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yes http://moonsocietyforum.com/phpBB3/index.php

[9:04:14 PM] James Rogers says: Apparently we've moved on, so I'm giving up

[9:04:30 PM] Don Jacques says: Not really, James

[9:04:34 PM] Shaun Moss says: please don't James

[9:05:02 PM] Don Jacques says: James - your point about "one-way" blends with mine of WIFM

[9:05:24 PM] Don Jacques says: Prospective members need another reason than "The Moon" to join our group

[9:05:27 PM] James Rogers says: @ shaun:  The moon is the only suitable target for sidewalk astronomy, due to light pollution

[9:05:48 PM] Shaun Moss says: ok cool - I have never participated in anything like that

[9:05:53 PM] Don Jacques says: Makes sense James, but the general populace doesnt care

[9:06:13 PM] James Rogers says: Have you ever tried sidewalk astronomy?

[9:06:18 PM] Don Jacques says: We need to find ways to relate the Moon to their everyday lives.

[9:06:27 PM] David A Dunlop says:       I think that not every activity resonates with everybody. I think star parties are

[9:06:36 PM] Shaun Moss says: may I suggest that the Moon Society is not necessarily for the general population?

[9:06:49 PM] Don Jacques says: I agree to a point,

[9:06:52 PM] Rosalie Dieteman says: people don't go outdoors as much anymore

[9:07:00 PM] Peter Kokh says: I think that the kind of activities that are appopriate for a local chapter do not necessarily work for the at large society. So we need to distinguish

[9:07:02 PM] James Rogers says: @Patty: We havent tried star parties or sidewalk astronomy in the past

[9:07:06 PM] David A Dunlop says:      fun ways to meet people. If there are a variety of telscopes and knowdgeable people its a great activity on a nice summer evening.

[9:07:16 PM] Don Jacques says: However, growth will come from expanding our accepted boundaries

[9:07:21 PM] Don Jacques says: Peter, I agree

[9:07:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: well, how about we try it?

[9:07:36 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Something new then?

[9:07:59 PM] Don Jacques says: Star parties would be great as social events if done in conjuction with another event

[9:08:02 PM] Shaun Moss says: if people are interested in star parties, there's certainly no harm in having them

[9:08:15 PM] Shaun Moss says: we could have several in different parts of the world, on the same night

[9:08:15 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: How about getting the local colleges involved for the telescopes and location.

[9:08:48 PM] James Rogers says: All we need to do is coordinate with the local astronomy clubs and join theirs

[9:08:51 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Shaun -- now that's something marketable.

[9:09:15 PM] Shaun Moss says: what about July 16?  it's 40 years since Neil and Buzz set foot on the Moon this year

[9:09:23 PM] Shaun Moss says: we could have a world Moon Party

[9:09:32 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: YESSSSS! -- Shaun!!!

[9:09:51 PM] David A Dunlop says:       That's a great idea! We might have our own version of Yuri's night!

[9:09:55 PM] Shaun Moss says: with telescopes

[9:10:21 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: With telescopes and PR to the local newspapers.

[9:10:23 PM] David A Dunlop says:     I think that the NSS might also like to promote something lke that!

[9:10:28 PM] Shaun Moss says: definitely

[9:10:38 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: YESS, sirree.

[9:10:51 PM] James Rogers says: The astronomical league would probably back that as well

[9:11:00 PM] Shaun Moss says: what cities do we have represented here?

[9:11:09 PM] Dana Carson says: Baltimore MD

[9:11:12 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Phoenix and AZ

[9:11:14 PM] David A Dunlop says:      We might prepare for the party by posting some obsefvation tups on our web site and

[9:11:18 PM] James Rogers says: But I need to point something put

[9:11:29 PM] Peter Kokh says: http://www.moonsociety.org/chapters/milwaukee/msmo_currentproj.htm#sidewalk

[9:11:36 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Get those on Facebook groups involved for sure,

[9:11:37 PM] David A Dunlop says:  a map of Apollo landing sites on a lunar near side image

[9:11:47 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: and LinkedIn

[9:12:16 PM] James Rogers says: We need to coordinate with local astronomy clubs first, and we need members who have telescopes

[9:12:27 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes

[9:12:34 PM] Peter Kokh says: Projects are not real until someone takes ownership of them. So we all need to pick something up our own alleys and get to it!

[9:12:35 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: David -- do you have a digital view of this.

[9:12:50 PM] Shaun Moss says: I can create a facebook group

[9:12:52 PM] David A Dunlop says:      We could also suggest that people wnating to host the party contact us and we will list their place and time as local affiliation, Moon Soceity, NSS, astronomy club, local college etc.

[9:13:23 PM] Shaun Moss says: good idea

[9:13:41 PM] Shaun Moss says: we should list all cities and contacts for each, place/time, etc.

[9:13:45 PM] David A Dunlop says:    Patti, I'm not sure what youre asking

[9:13:50 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Have a Facebook site for the 40th anniversary already guys and gals.

[9:14:03 PM] James Rogers says: I have no local astronomy club, but I can do some sniffing around.  This needs to be a local activity first

[9:14:07 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: David -- mentions the moon landing site map

[9:14:07 PM] Shaun Moss says: do you mean, there is one already?

[9:14:50 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Site map Shaun or 40th Anniv Facebook group?

[9:15:01 PM] Shaun Moss says: the second item

[9:15:01 PM] Don Jacques sent file "Lunar Landing Sites.jpg" to members of this chat



[9:15:06 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Patti, what is the URL?

[9:15:12 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Well there are maps that show the landing sites for Apollo missions so that you can point out the Sea of Tranquility for example.

[9:15:35 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Hang on--I'll get it AND AWESOME DON. I'll take that from you.

[9:15:47 PM] Shaun Moss says: nice work Don

[9:15:59 PM] Don Jacques says: I just stole it from NASA

[9:16:13 PM] Shaun Moss says: moon.google.com is also a good resource

[9:16:35 PM] James Rogers says: I didnt recieve it

[9:16:36 PM] Peter Kokh says: So far these are good ideas for individuals or for local chapters and we can suggest them and hope that others will be interested

[9:16:46 PM] Shaun Moss says: I had some thoughts on recruitment that I would like to share

[9:17:07 PM] Peter Kokh says: But not activities that we can organize on a society wide level imho

[9:17:12 PM] Shaun Moss says: when I joined the Moon Society I received a poster, which I thought was great - most groups (e.g. Mars Soc) don't provide items like this

[9:17:15 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Think this will get you there --

[9:17:20 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=68226096211

[9:17:22 PM] Dana Carson says: April 12th is Yuri's Night http://yurisnight.net/

[9:17:22 PM] Shaun Moss says: so things like this are good

[9:17:46 PM] Shaun Moss says: another important factor I think is constant communication with the new member - automatically add them to a mailing list

[9:17:56 PM] James Rogers says: I'm not doing anything on the 12th except drinking vodka.  That night is reserved for my birthday adn I intend to relax

[9:18:05 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Just started it a week or so ago.

[9:18:07 PM] Shaun Moss says: we have groups, but not really uni-directional mailing lists

[9:18:27 PM] Dana Carson says: worth seeing if there is a party in your area and meeting new space interested people

[9:18:48 PM] James Rogers says: I tried.  They're all underage.  lol

[9:18:55 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAMES (^)

[9:19:16 PM] James Rogers says: danke

[9:19:16 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yuri's night is a hard thing to organize and seldom rewarding per experience of many who have tried

[9:19:33 PM] Peter Kokh says: 26?

[9:19:36 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Try to find:

[9:19:40 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Remembering the First Moon Walk

[9:20:03 PM] David A Dunlop says:      James, Are your FEELING orlder?

[9:20:08 PM] James Rogers says: You know Peter, I stopped counting and I'd have to calculate that

[9:20:25 PM] Shaun Moss says: what do people think about drafting a 1-page PDF titled "Join the Moon Society", which would list some of the benefits and current projects/activities

[9:20:30 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yah, I've been stuck on 35 for 36 years now

[9:21:18 PM] Peter Kokh says: Shaun, we have a list of membership benefits on the register page but we could add to it

[9:21:23 PM] James Gholston says: :: is the same age as Bing Crosby

[9:21:32 PM] Shaun Moss says: I mean something we could each email to 10 of our friends

[9:21:41 PM] James Rogers says: @Dave  Every day

[9:21:42 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Would you be putting these onto the website white papers?

[9:21:43 PM] Don Jacques says: Sounds like a good idea Shaun - Perhaps segregate it by national benefits and local benefits

[9:21:53 PM] Shaun Moss says: good idea Don

[9:21:56 PM] Peter Kokh says: No James, Bing is dead and you are not, thank God!

[9:22:18 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Good idea Shaun -- a moon walk

[9:22:22 PM] Peter Kokh says: Don, that's a good idea as it plugs outposts and chaptes

[9:22:38 PM] Shaun Moss says: what I mean is, this activity and energy we are generating is worth something, i.e. money, to the society, as well as the benefits of the added minds

[9:22:50 PM] Shaun Moss says: let's take advantage of it

[9:22:57 PM] Don Jacques says: Can the website, detect the locale of the visitor and suggest a nearby contact?

[9:23:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: great idea!

[9:23:20 PM] Shaun Moss says: we can use MaxMind geoip to detect the user's city

[9:23:22 PM] Shaun Moss says: it's free

[9:23:26 PM] Peter Kokh says: I don't think so Don, but we do have a chapters and outposts map

[9:23:30 PM] Dana Carson says: there are ways of doing location from IP addresses

[9:23:45 PM] Shaun Moss says: I do this all the time

[9:23:48 PM] Dana Carson says: I don't know i there are any free resources for that

[9:23:54 PM] Don Jacques says: keeoooolll

[9:23:55 PM] Shaun Moss says: MaxMind GeoIP

[9:24:30 PM] Don Jacques says: http://www.maxmind.com/app/geoip_country

[9:24:34 PM] Shaun Moss says: http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolitecity

[9:24:36 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Awesome Shaun :D

[9:25:13 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Great minds think alike -- city and country in one single moment.

[9:25:24 PM] Don Jacques says: Whoa! I gotta bookmark this!

[9:25:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: indeed :)

[9:25:37 PM] Peter Kokh says: I have been emailing new members and if there are other members nearby in their state I let them know that

[9:26:01 PM] Shaun Moss says: I worked in a recruiting industry (direct sales) for a long time - there are simple strategies to retain people

[9:26:16 PM] Shaun Moss says: get them involved

[9:26:32 PM] Shaun Moss says: "train to retain" although not sure how applicable that would be in our case

[9:26:35 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Wow -- finally Shaun is coming clean.

[9:27:21 PM] Shaun Moss says: we have to create a positive vibe that sweeps people up and makes them feel good to be part of it

[9:27:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: but that's what we have going now

[9:28:08 PM] James Gholston says: We have wikis that people can add to right now.  How might we better make them part of the instant package

[9:28:31 PM] Peter Kokh says: I am taking notes

[9:28:42 PM] Peter Kokh says: Lot's of good ideas tonight

[9:28:48 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Instant package?

[9:28:49 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Maybe we could get Buzz Aldrin to do a web address to the world at the moment of his lunar touchdown on Juy the 16th. I think people would really thin it was great to see a message from him on the 40th anniversary!

[9:28:50 PM] Shaun Moss says: I think we need a welcome pack that includes a poster and a membership card, plus online resources

[9:29:14 PM] Shaun Moss says: Buzz is connected with SRI, he is not difficult to contact

[9:29:24 PM] Rosalie Dieteman says: do we want people in the house listening to buzz aldrin or outside looking at the moon?

[9:29:32 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: YESS -- Want to get everyone in on this one.

[9:29:47 PM] Peter Kokh says: Shaun you can go to moonsociety.org/mymoon/ and download your own membership card

[9:29:49 PM] Shaun Moss says: we want people outside looking at the Moon listening to Buzz on radio/podcast :))

[9:30:12 PM] Shaun Moss says: wow, cool

[9:30:18 PM] James Gholston says: I agree that the membershtip card would be more effective if we sent people a physical one

[9:30:20 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: PODCAST -- RIGHT UP our alley!

[9:30:23 PM] David A Dunlop says:     He will also most likely be at the ISDC. I think we might a sponsor for this proposed event.

[9:30:26 PM] Peter Kokh says: except Buzz is a "Moon? Been there, done that" person and so that is not a good idea

[9:30:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: i think so too

[9:30:48 PM] Shaun Moss says: what about Harrison Schmitt?

[9:31:01 PM] Charles F. Radley says: we have video of Buzz already

[9:31:03 PM] Rosalie Dieteman says: scotty made a nice electronic one, but yes, one printed on tagboard would be nice

[9:31:07 PM] Don Jacques says: Maybe he wasnt offered what he wanted to hear in order to do it

[9:31:09 PM] James Gholston says: We definitely need to approach Schmitt

[9:31:11 PM] David A Dunlop says:      We don't really know that until we ask him not do we?

[9:31:16 PM] Charles F. Radley says: http://gaiaselene.com/

[9:31:19 PM] Peter Kokh says: OKay, is there a way I can print out each person's memberhip card and send it with the membership packet? I am willing to do that

[9:31:27 PM] James Gholston says: "He's the one who left the Planetary Society over its discarding Luna, right?

[9:31:35 PM] Charles F. Radley says: yes

[9:32:11 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Harrison's 40th anniversary will not come up until 2012

[9:32:19 PM] Shaun Moss says: good point

[9:32:25 PM] Shaun Moss says: better stick to Buzz

[9:32:46 PM] James Gholston says: But Schmitt is a better fit with our goals

[9:32:51 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Yes, Buzz is the one.

[9:32:57 PM] James Rogers says: Buzz supports commercial development of the moon

[9:33:02 PM] Dana Carson says: a podcast by him about the mission is a way to rasie interest

[9:33:04 PM] Charles F. Radley says: http://gaiaselene.com/Visionaries/Visionaries.html

[9:33:08 PM] James Gholston says: So we really need an excuse to approach him as well

[9:33:19 PM] Dana Carson says: even if he doesn't directly support us

[9:33:25 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: I agree with Dana and James.

[9:33:32 PM] Don Jacques says: didnt obama talk in the news today about commercializing the moon?

[9:33:38 PM] James Gholston says: Buzz is very focused on time management.  If he's going to do something it needs to have a large scale impact

[9:33:49 PM] Shaun Moss says: for a July 16 celebration, gotta be Buzz and/or Neil

[9:33:52 PM] David A Dunlop says:       He I beliee is an NSS Director. We might suggest a joint sponsorship and maybe

[9:34:29 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: I heard somewhere that Neil isn't involved anymore.

[9:34:49 PM] David A Dunlop says:     get some commercial spnsorship tied into this. They might pay Buzz a generous fee for something like this.   Coke or Pepsi for example are world wide!

[9:35:28 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Wow -- David is Blue skying as much as Don does in Phoenix.

[9:35:59 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Would love to get large corporate sponsors -- but reality check -- no time.

[9:36:02 PM] Peter Kokh says: lol

[9:36:33 PM] Shaun Moss says: I don't really want Coke or Pepsi involved

[9:36:39 PM] Don Jacques says: What about the New Space companies?

[9:36:46 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: YESSS!

[9:36:48 PM] Shaun Moss says: what about Virgin or Google

[9:36:49 PM] Don Jacques says: XCor, TSpace

[9:36:50 PM] Peter Kokh says: There is going to be a very big push for MMM at ISDC, by NSS

[9:37:15 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: There you guys go!

[9:37:16 PM] Peter Kokh says: New space companies NEED money and are in no position to give any

[9:37:20 PM] David A Dunlop says:       This is not difficult to put together. Buzz might simply record something that is web cast in sync with the time he steped on the Moon and say something about going back to develop the Moon.

[9:37:24 PM] Charles F. Radley says: the Newspace companies generally have no money to spare

[9:37:31 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Virgin and Google would be good

[9:37:36 PM] Peter Kokh says: Is Dave volunteering?

[9:37:37 PM] Shaun Moss says: yeah but Google have plenty, and they are hugely pro-Moon

[9:37:56 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: It takes money influx in marketing to get NEW MONEY into NEW SPACE.

[9:38:33 PM] Peter Kokh says: Move we appoint Patti chief fund raiser

[9:38:44 PM] Shaun Moss says: seconded

[9:38:50 PM] Don Jacques says: Whoa?

[9:38:55 PM] Don Jacques says: She's ours!

[9:38:58 PM] Shaun Moss says: oh - am I allowed to second as chairperson?

[9:39:02 PM] David A Dunlop says:      I am plugged into the NSS ISDC planning process so I could easily suggest something like this to NSS.    George Whiteside is the originator of Yuri's night so this is very much in the same spirit except that Buzz is still with us.

[9:39:22 PM] Shaun Moss says: sounds excellent Dave

[9:39:39 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yuri's night is 4 weeks away

[9:40:05 PM] Rosalie Dieteman says: i'll second ;)

[9:40:29 PM] Peter Kokh says: and George Whitesides has moved on

[9:40:34 PM] Peter Kokh says: to NASA

[9:40:43 PM] Shaun Moss says: ok - since we are 1 hour plus a martian timeslip into the meeting, I move that we move to item 3 on the agenda - fund-raising

[9:40:56 PM] Charles F. Radley says: I wouldl ike to suggest cooperation with Spac renaissance (which Buzz and Moon Society are supporting)  http://groups.google.com/group/space-renaissance-initiative

[9:40:57 PM] Don Jacques says: hold a moment

[9:41:05 PM] Don Jacques says: shaun

[9:41:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: k

[9:41:21 PM] Charles F. Radley says: do we ahve an agenda?

[9:41:25 PM] Shaun Moss says: agree with Charles, this is logical

[9:41:31 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes we do, sort of

[9:41:43 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Am already doing the fund raising for the Phoenix chapter and when we are fund raising for the moon book now. When that is done I can reconsider the appointment to fund raise.

[9:41:45 PM] Shaun Moss says: Agenda

1. Tour of Skype.

2. Recruiting and retention.

3. Fund-raising.

[9:42:24 PM] Peter Kokh says: Okay Patti, good luck with the book. It looks excellent

[9:42:27 PM] David A Dunlop says:       Now if we look down the neck of an empty Stolnikiya Vodka bottle at the magnified image of the Moon we could practice for the July 16th party!

[9:42:41 PM] Shaun Moss says: hehe

[9:43:15 PM] Don Jacques says: Peter, you brought up issues with division of responsibility

[9:43:16 PM] Peter Kokh says: Haven't tried any Russian vodka since I was in Russia, but it's the best

[9:43:31 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Quite poetic David. :P

[9:43:38 PM] Shaun Moss says: official cocktail of the World Moon Party: http://www.drinkswap.com/drinks/detail.asp?recipe_id=679 (Shoot to the Moon)

[9:43:50 PM] David A Dunlop says:     I thought you'd all be moved

[9:43:51 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yes, some kinds of things are appropriate locally, others at large

[9:43:55 PM] Don Jacques says: If the national organization would commit to followon dissemination of event information

[9:44:23 PM] Don Jacques says: the local groups could host and run the events with the national group occasionally visiting and publicising

[9:44:29 PM] Annie O'Hara Bynum says: the vicodin has kicked in... got to say g'n y'all :)

[9:44:38 PM] Don Jacques says: gnite annie

[9:44:39 PM] Peter Kokh says: And no project can be real without someone who takes ownership of it. In other words don't suggest projects for me (I have already too many) but for yourself.

[9:44:42 PM] James Rogers says: Gnight Annie

[9:44:50 PM] Dana Carson says: gnight

[9:44:51 PM] Shaun Moss says: goodnight Annie

[9:44:54 PM] tuttlepc says: g'night Annie, lol

[9:45:15 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Annie, have you seen doc about the bite?

[9:45:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: unfortunately I also have too many at the moment

[9:45:31 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Annie was bittten by a dog earlier today

[9:45:37 PM] David A Dunlop says:      I'll be willing to explore the 40th Anniversay party idea with NSS as a co-sponsor.

[9:45:47 PM] Peter Kokh says: Don, we try to do that in MMM as best we can, but I think we should do it on the website as well - thanks for the suggetion

[9:45:54 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Annie psoted pics of her injury on her FB page

[9:45:56 PM] Don Jacques says: David - where to hold the party

[9:46:08 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: I second the suggestion by David.

[9:46:09 PM] Shaun Moss says: should we have a vote as to whether we want to go ahead with the Moon Party on July 16?

[9:46:17 PM] James Rogers says: I'll be talking to some friends abotu the Sidewalk Astronomy/Star Party

[9:46:33 PM] Shaun Moss says: or is it pretty much unanimous?

[9:46:37 PM] Don Jacques says: how practical to coordinate multiple parties on that nite?

[9:46:45 PM] Don Jacques says: around the country

[9:46:48 PM] Don Jacques says: or world

[9:46:50 PM] Shaun Moss says: around the world

[9:46:52 PM] Shaun Moss says: use facebook

[9:46:59 PM] David A Dunlop says:       Well all over where ever we have an NSS chapger a NS chapter that is willing to be a local host or any other group that likes the idea. We just list the time and place on the MS website.

[9:47:03 PM] Peter Kokh says: All we can do is suggest that chapters hold such parties.

[9:47:08 PM] James Rogers says: I cannot coordinate multiple parties/Moon Party.  Not enough time in my schedule

[9:47:39 PM] Don Jacques says: is there any tool on the website that might allow collaborative scheduling?

[9:47:43 PM] Shaun Moss says: let's do it together James

[9:47:45 PM] David A Dunlop says:       Can we have a page where people could post their party?

[9:48:07 PM] Peter Kokh says: That is the problem. We should only launch new initiatives when we have someone to take ownership. Otherwise we are whistling in the dark and will look silly.

[9:48:08 PM] Don Jacques says: that would be a great start

[9:48:33 PM] James Rogers says: Alright, Shaun

[9:48:46 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yes, Dave, I will put up a chapter notices page where all chapters and outposts can post (or send) news about upcoming and recent chapter events

[9:48:49 PM] Shaun Moss says: ok James and I can make a start, then hopefully others will help

[9:48:57 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Well I volunteer to explore the idea with NSS and to work with others who like the idea.

[9:49:12 PM] Shaun Moss says: thanks Dave :)

[9:49:13 PM] James Rogers says: So we have Me, Shaun, and Dave

[9:49:17 PM] Don Jacques says: Phoenix can commit to a part

[9:49:24 PM] Don Jacques says: part-y

[9:49:40 PM] Don Jacques says: Let us know when the page is up and we will add our group

[9:49:40 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: (y)

[9:49:45 PM] James Rogers says: And MS Phoenix   I think we have a spring board

[9:50:01 PM] Peter Kokh says: Dave, there is no Exec Director now at NSS so it will be hard to do. Best to work with the NSS chapters committee and they work very slowly

[9:50:20 PM] Shaun Moss says: there's no exec dir?

[9:50:27 PM] Dana Carson says: I'll talk to the local NSS people here about a joint party

[9:50:31 PM] Shaun Moss says: I can contact Dan Fabier

[9:50:37 PM] Don Jacques says: We can do the same here

[9:50:37 PM] Charles F. Radley says: George reigned to take a job at NASA

[9:50:42 PM] Charles F. Radley says: resigned

[9:50:46 PM] Shaun Moss says: he's on the NSS board

[9:51:27 PM] Peter Kokh says: I am on NSS Board of Advisors

[9:51:36 PM] Peter Kokh says: July 16th is a Thursday

[9:51:37 PM] Shaun Moss says: oh yeah <sheepish grin>

[9:51:56 PM] David A Dunlop says:       We could post something about the MS celebrating the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11

[9:52:06 PM] Shaun Moss says: should we have the party on the Friday?

[9:52:19 PM] Shaun Moss says: actually, nah

[9:52:25 PM] Peter Kokh says: Parties have to be local - so local decision

[9:52:27 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Ok -- start on that Thursday and make it an all weekend event.

[9:52:28 PM] Shaun Moss says: too historic to confuse people about dates

[9:52:28 PM] Don Jacques says: Announce the book nationally through the MS.org?

[9:52:36 PM] Don Jacques says: in conjunction with the party

[9:52:38 PM] Peter Kokh says: Unless we have a national telecon or something like that

[9:53:12 PM] Shaun Moss says: let's do that

[9:53:39 PM] Don Jacques says: july 17, parties in local chapters, book release

[9:53:45 PM] Peter Kokh says: How? Curious

[9:53:59 PM] Don Jacques says: Peter -  curious bout what?

[9:54:10 PM] Peter Kokh says: Some of us could offer to speak to groups

[9:54:34 PM] Shaun Moss says: perhaps as a precursor to some of the parties, there could be some presentations

[9:54:35 PM] David A Dunlop says:       This should be an "extreme" party. At the time it was very early in the morning so we could stream video at that time.   Every sports bar should be able to get the feed before closing time!

[9:54:41 PM] Don Jacques says: internet radio/tv

[9:54:48 PM] Shaun Moss says: if A/V equipment is available

[9:54:54 PM] Shaun Moss says: these could be streamed to the web

[9:55:10 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Streaming video -- awesome idea and do-able.

[9:55:19 PM] Don Jacques says: could each party be tied into skype video at the same time?

[9:55:41 PM] Peter Kokh says: Someone has to be in charge for it to get done. Out of my area of experience.

[9:55:43 PM] Don Jacques says: A Skype Moon Party!

[9:55:48 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: That too Don. BiggBBBBIIIGGG party.

[9:55:54 PM] Shaun Moss says: probably - but consider time zones

[9:56:03 PM] Don Jacques says: pesky buggers!

[9:56:11 PM] Shaun Moss says: :D

[9:56:17 PM] Peter Kokh says: Shaun, a pass it on party from time zone to time zone

[9:56:18 PM] David A Dunlop says:       The idea would be to stream it 40 years to the minute it actually happened.

[9:56:26 PM] Shaun Moss says: great idea

[9:56:29 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: We just need to list these time zones

[9:56:29 PM] Don Jacques says: Yea peter

[9:56:42 PM] David A Dunlop says:      It was something like 1AM Chicago time when I saw it.

[9:56:52 PM] Shaun Moss says: what if we schedule 4 online parties

[9:56:59 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: LOVVVEE it.

[9:57:02 PM] Shaun Moss says: Aust, India, Europe, NorthAm

[9:57:04 PM] James Rogers says: Ladies and Gentlemen, I have to go into lurk mode to do some backlogged assignments

[9:57:07 PM] Don Jacques says: An International 40 A\niv Moon Pass It On Skype Party!

[9:57:44 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Ok -- James. Keep in touch though, Please!

[9:57:45 PM] Shaun Moss says: cya James - chat soon

[9:57:48 PM] Don Jacques says: when each chapter registers their party, they need to register their time zone as well

[9:58:00 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Yes, Don.

[9:58:11 PM] David A Dunlop says:       This is sort of like the milleniun party TV co verage that rolled around the world!

[9:58:11 PM] Shaun Moss says: good idea

[9:58:16 PM] Don Jacques says: The list would display in sort order by time zone sequence

[9:58:23 PM] Peter Kokh says: To make it work, we need numbers, that means involving NSS which is so much bigger that they will get the credit not us. That is the dilemma.

[9:58:35 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes - but you wouldn't want a different scheduled party for each time zone, too many

[9:58:37 PM] Don Jacques says: i think NSS might actually like it

[9:58:48 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Some attention is better than no attention!

[9:58:49 PM] Shaun Moss says: if you had just one simultaneous event for USA, for example

[9:59:03 PM] Shaun Moss says: which would cover 4 timezones

[9:59:05 PM] Dana Carson says: Apogee books has DVDs with video and ausio of missions in the space history books they put out

[9:59:05 PM] Peter Kokh says: NSS is slow moving, we are small and fast.

[9:59:21 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: It's not about who gets credit -- it's about sharing an awesome event with the world.

[9:59:25 PM] Shaun Moss says: yeah but it was our idea

[9:59:33 PM] Dana Carson says: they might be willig to supply video for a streaming video

[9:59:39 PM] David A Dunlop says:       MS is the little engine that could. We keep the productio simple and I think a lot of peole will tag alng

[9:59:52 PM] Peter Kokh says: Shaun, usually we do two airings, one for the two eastern time zones, one for the two western time zones

[9:59:58 PM] Shaun Moss says: ok

[10:00:04 PM] Shaun Moss says: makes sense

[10:00:21 PM] Shaun Moss says: then you need Australia, India and western Europe

[10:00:47 PM] David A Dunlop says:       Of coures and don't forget Japan and South America

[10:00:53 PM] Don Jacques says: What's wrong with 4 parties, each one passes on our Skype token at an agreed upon time to the next party - how many times will the skype token go around the world?

[10:00:54 PM] Shaun Moss says: do we have members there?

[10:01:01 PM] Peter Kokh says: We will suggest it in the May issue of MMM-India Quarterly

[10:01:21 PM] Peter Kokh says: But before that on IndianSpaceTalk email list to which I subscribe

[10:01:35 PM] David A Dunlop says:       We could also promote it with MMM and Ad Astra with this much lead time

[10:01:46 PM] Don Jacques says: What other mass-email resources could we use as well?

[10:01:51 PM] Peter Kokh says: We have lots of contacts in India right now, actually, more than in US

[10:02:02 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Get it out ASAP so we can get this moving to large scale.

[10:02:18 PM] Peter Kokh says: Ad Astra needs 90-120 days lead tie

[10:02:19 PM] Shaun Moss says: Japan is only two hours different from Oz, could combine

[10:02:20 PM] Charles F. Radley says: we ahve hundreds of people on the Moon Society lists on Facebook

[10:02:29 PM] Charles F. Radley says: and a couple of hundred on Myspace

[10:02:30 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Charles -- you are awesome getting large groups moving.

[10:02:34 PM] Shaun Moss says: also we could set up a twitter

[10:02:43 PM] Don Jacques says: Hit em all!

[10:02:44 PM] Charles F. Radley says: we have a twitter

[10:02:48 PM] Shaun Moss says: k

[10:02:52 PM] Charles F. Radley says: we also have linkedin, plaxo

[10:02:54 PM] Don Jacques says: generate the buzz, and it will spread

[10:02:55 PM] Shaun Moss says: doesn't surprise me :)

[10:02:56 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Twitter -- necessary evil./

[10:03:00 PM] Peter Kokh says: ans Orkut

[10:03:03 PM] Shaun Moss says: how many followers on twitter?

[10:03:03 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: (devil) twitter

[10:03:10 PM] Charles F. Radley says: yes thanks Peter, Orkut

[10:03:14 PM] David A Dunlop says:       Charles whynot get SRI involved with so many contacts in Europe. I think Adriano would love this. What do you think?

[10:03:18 PM] Charles F. Radley says: also of course the Artemis list

[10:03:25 PM] Charles F. Radley says: and the Moon Soc announce list

[10:03:40 PM] Charles F. Radley says: sure SRI would e cool

[10:03:47 PM] Shaun Moss says: what if we make it a Moon Soc/SRI/NSS thing, but led primarily by Moon Soc

[10:03:55 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Yes, I do actually follow your info Charles.

[10:04:01 PM] Don Jacques says: Hey, If MS hosts the party list early, and our chapters are represented in force, we could easily maintain leadership of the events

[10:04:04 PM] Charles F. Radley says: this time si difficult to Europeans to participate, we have SRI meetings in early morning USA time, evening Europe time

[10:04:08 PM] Peter Kokh says: Need to put together a team to compose just what we are going to announce

[10:04:13 PM] David A Dunlop says:         Is there a way to save this dialog so that we have the minutes and don't  lose the ideas flying fast and  furious?

[10:04:24 PM] Charles F. Radley says: yes Skype saves all by default

[10:04:25 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes

[10:04:26 PM] Don Jacques says: Stored in histyr

[10:04:56 PM] Don Jacques says: Agree peter, with a deadline for announcement

[10:05:15 PM] Bruce Mackenzie says: hi guys, Bruce Mackenzie here briefly, I like the idea of a 40 yr. anniversary of Apollo event, might be able to help, and can publicize within NSS & Mars Soc.

[10:05:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: let's aim to announce by the end of March then

[10:05:33 PM] Don Jacques says: I second announcement

[10:05:58 PM] David A Dunlop says:       I will draft an announcement and we can get together at another Skupe meeting to put more structure into all these suggestions

[10:06:01 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Yes , Mars Society and the local Star Trek groups

[10:06:01 PM] Peter Kokh says: That means a hectic next two weeks, but sooner is better, latter leads to putting off

[10:06:04 PM] Shaun Moss says: but do I have permission to create the facebook group page beforehand?

[10:06:12 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: In coordination with upcoming movie for Star Trek

[10:06:20 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yes, Shaun

[10:06:31 PM] Bruce Mackenzie says: clarify earlier mention, George Whitesides is not on NSS BoD, Buzz is not on NSS BoD, but Buzz is probably on NSS BoG (honorary board)

[10:06:32 PM] Don Jacques says: Trek groups could love this

[10:06:51 PM] Shaun Moss says: Buzz is in SRI

[10:06:57 PM] Shaun Moss says: (I think so anyway)

[10:07:12 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: So, who can get to Buzz?\

[10:07:13 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Shaun, you can use the Moon Soc FB group, I can make you admin

[10:07:24 PM] Charles F. Radley says: SRI can get to Buzz through Feng Hsu

[10:07:26 PM] James Rogers says: I can publish on multiple myspace groups

[10:07:29 PM] Shaun Moss says: what I meant was an Event, not a group

[10:07:34 PM] Don Jacques says: Suggestion:  Send advance announcement to: NSS, Mars, StarTrek grps, India, before going public

[10:07:39 PM] Charles F. Radley says: shaun, you can create an event from a Group

[10:07:42 PM] Shaun Moss says: but thank you Charles

[10:07:44 PM] Don Jacques says: with info on hosting party list

[10:07:46 PM] Shaun Moss says: ah I see, thanks!

[10:08:00 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Shaun, if you create event on the FB group you can add a few hundred member right there

[10:08:07 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Shaun -- let's connect the FaceBook Groups together for more hits.

[10:08:10 PM] Shaun Moss says: I can't speak for Frank but I'm sure Mars Drive would support this

[10:08:16 PM] Shaun Moss says: good idea Patti

[10:08:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: the GLXP teams would be into it as well

[10:08:28 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Patti, what is your FB group name/

[10:08:30 PM] Charles F. Radley says: ?

[10:08:45 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: I know ASU Mars NASA group.

[10:08:47 PM] Don Jacques says: Shaun, I reccommend a recap by shared email in the next few days or a smaller skype meeting initiated by you to bring us together again to firm up things

[10:08:47 PM] Peter Kokh says: I will talk to the American Lunar Society about this

[10:09:04 PM] David A Dunlop says:       I suggest we send a ltter to the groups mentioned asking them to co-sponsor the parties with their membership. This makes it an intergroup international effort just the way the original landing a=was a world wide event

[10:09:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: Don - good idea

[10:09:12 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: GLXP ??

[10:09:22 PM] Shaun Moss says: give me 2 days, I will look at it again on Saturday

[10:09:25 PM] Shaun Moss says: Google Lunar X-Prize

[10:09:33 PM] Peter Kokh says: Google Lunar XPrize

[10:09:33 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Shaun, you are now admin of Moon Society goru pon FB

[10:09:37 PM] Shaun Moss says: cheers

[10:09:42 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: OOOooo.

[10:10:06 PM] Charles F. Radley says: anybody else wish to be admin or officer on the Ms group on FB?

[10:10:22 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: I can help with that.

[10:10:27 PM] Shaun Moss says: we must ask Rick Tumlinson as well

[10:10:33 PM] Don Jacques says: yea!

[10:10:37 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Sounds good

[10:10:41 PM] Shaun Moss says: he is pro-Moon

[10:10:45 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Rick would be AWESOME

[10:10:47 PM] Peter Kokh says: I can ask SFF Will Watson

[10:10:53 PM] Don Jacques says: It should be mentioned or forwarded to the newspace companies

[10:11:06 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Patti u r admin

[10:11:08 PM] James Rogers says: Question:  SHould we call this Apollo Night?

[10:11:17 PM] David A Dunlop says:       Apollo

[10:11:29 PM] David A Dunlop says:     Apollo's Night?

[10:11:31 PM] Shaun Moss says: sounds good - although, a lot like Yuri's Night

[10:11:32 PM] Don Jacques says: no

[10:11:41 PM] Shaun Moss says: I like Moon Party

[10:11:49 PM] Peter Kokh says: Ditto

[10:11:49 PM] Don Jacques says: Moon Party is better . . . .

[10:12:02 PM] Don Jacques says: The sun never sets on the moon . . .

[10:12:03 PM] David A Dunlop says:       Moon Party Apollo

[10:12:06 PM] James Rogers says: I don't like Moon Party...   Its not catchy.   Sounds like a marketing flop

[10:12:29 PM] James Rogers says: Moon Party Apollo I like

[10:12:32 PM] Don Jacques says: Moon . . . Future . . . Apollo . . . Hope . . .

[10:12:35 PM] Peter Kokh says: Moon Landing Party

[10:12:35 PM] Shaun Moss says: yeah but it's more general and won't arouse quite so much "faked moon landings" noises

[10:13:10 PM] James Rogers says: We don't need moon conspiracy theorists.

[10:13:21 PM] Shaun Moss says: indeed

[10:13:25 PM] Peter Kokh says: Apollo Moon Party II (first one in 1969)

[10:13:30 PM] Shaun Moss says: Apollo Moon Party

[10:13:43 PM] Don Jacques says: What about tying in the idea of each party passing a digital baton to tie them together and mention that in the name

[10:13:53 PM] James Rogers says: I like it.   Apollo Moon Party

[10:13:54 PM] Don Jacques says: I like the II

[10:14:15 PM] David A Dunlop says:     @James:  If your a living fossil lke me you can sponsor a Moon Party Apollo is you are James Rogers you can sponsor a Rave!

[10:14:25 PM] Peter Kokh says: or Apollo Moon Paty 40

[10:14:37 PM] James Rogers says: I like just plane Moon Party Apollo

[10:14:45 PM] James Rogers says: or Apollo Moon Party

[10:14:49 PM] Peter Kokh says: Okay with MPA

[10:14:54 PM] Shaun Moss says: AMP!

[10:15:03 PM] Shaun Moss says: either way is great

[10:15:13 PM] Peter Kokh says: Yes AMP

[10:15:22 PM] Don Jacques says: (y)

[10:15:29 PM] David A Dunlop says:      I like the Apollo Moon Party better

[10:15:33 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: (inlove)

[10:15:43 PM] James Rogers says: @Dave: Do you know what we DO at Raves?   lol

[10:15:57 PM] Don Jacques says: sex drugs, and geratrics?

[10:15:58 PM] Rosalie Dieteman says: dance and drink?

[10:16:04 PM] David A Dunlop says:        Something to do with smoling drinking and.....

[10:16:31 PM] Peter Kokh says: let's not get off topic

[10:16:35 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: AND... it's the AND that always gets ya.

[10:16:37 PM] Shaun Moss says: indeed

[10:16:43 PM] James Gholston says: Do they involve a serotonin-modifying substance that causes dehydration?

[10:17:01 PM] James Rogers says: AND   yes   the AND.     Iinvolving every drug imaginable

[10:17:08 PM] David A Dunlop says:        I think James has grasped the essence

[10:17:23 PM] James Gholston stands updated



[10:17:29 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: (puke)James

[10:17:31 PM] Shaun Moss says: it's plural, JG

[10:17:44 PM] Shaun Moss says: "substances"

[10:17:47 PM] Shaun Moss says: anyway :)

[10:17:51 PM] Shaun Moss says: moving right along

[10:17:53 PM] James Rogers says: Usually devolving into multiple orgies.   so   back on topic

[10:18:08 PM] James Gholston double-clicks the media file for Jefferson Airplane's White Rabbit



[10:18:11 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: On the moon??

[10:18:29 PM] Shaun Moss says: man a rave on the Moon would be totally awesome.  I should say "will be:

[10:18:39 PM] James Rogers says: hahaha yeah, it would

[10:18:46 PM] David A Dunlop says:      You heard it here first folds

[10:18:55 PM] Peter Kokh says: We have to create a one step for mankind dance

[10:19:02 PM] Rosalie Dieteman says: Apollo Moon Rave?

[10:19:12 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Now, that's cute Peter

[10:19:24 PM] James Rogers says: Rave on the Moon.  Holy crap, thats a catchy title for a rave

[10:19:26 PM] Peter Kokh says: Who is the choreographer here?

[10:19:34 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Well   AMES RC will probably do a rave for this!

[10:19:41 PM] Shaun Moss says: Rosalie has a good idea there - let's contact some of these dance party organisers - at least one of them will get excited about it

[10:19:51 PM] Don Jacques says: would ames do it for us?

[10:20:04 PM] James Rogers says: Ames?   Do a Rave?    HAHAHAAH

[10:20:29 PM] Peter Kokh says: We are degenerating into nonsense now

[10:20:35 PM] David A Dunlop says:      What's the difference in liability insurance between a rave and a party?

[10:20:36 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes

[10:20:50 PM] Shaun Moss says: order!

[10:20:54 PM] Peter Kokh says: Usually the rssult of running on past quitting itme by 20 minutes

[10:20:59 PM] James Rogers says: Raves are underground, not to be publicized by usual means.    A Rave has FBI raid written all over it.

[10:21:08 PM] Dana Carson says: we've been here 2 1/2 hrs, we're getting punchy

[10:21:12 PM] Shaun Moss says: are there any further items relevant to the Moon Society Town Meeting?

[10:21:23 PM] David A Dunlop says:       Sober up all!

[10:21:30 PM] Shaun Moss says: if yes, then we drop rave discussion until later, if no then we close

[10:21:49 PM] Don Jacques says: Shaun, will there be a follow up skype meeting to firm up party stuff?

[10:21:57 PM] Shaun Moss says: if u like

[10:22:01 PM] Peter Kokh says: I move that we adjurn and digest the log for points and ideas we each want to take responsibility for pushing to the next level.

[10:22:07 PM] David A Dunlop says:       Yes lets schedule that

[10:22:16 PM] Rosalie Dieteman says: anyone know how to tap into a network of people involved in flash events?

[10:22:27 PM] Charles F. Radley says: flash?

[10:22:29 PM] Shaun Moss says: okay - party meeting in this room at 14:45 (23 minutes)

[10:22:33 PM] Peter Kokh says: I move we meet again on the 4th Wednesday/Thurs i.e. in 2 weeks

[10:22:39 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: What do you mean by Flash events?

[10:22:40 PM] Shaun Moss says: sorry that was EAST

[10:23:00 PM] Shaun Moss says: are there any further Moon Society Town Meeting items?

[10:23:15 PM] James Gholston says: "Move to adjourn

[10:23:20 PM] Rosalie Dieteman says: where people send text messages to all their friends to come to a certain location, and their friends pass it on

[10:23:22 PM] Don Jacques says: I second

[10:23:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: do I have a second for Peter's motion?

[10:23:28 PM] Peter Kokh says: There is a motion on the floor

[10:23:33 PM] David A Dunlop says:      I second

[10:23:39 PM] Don Jacques says: (y)

[10:23:57 PM] Shaun Moss says: ok we plan to meet here (Skype) at the same time in 2 weeks, agreed?

[10:24:02 PM] James Rogers says: Aye

[10:24:05 PM] Peter Kokh says: agreed

[10:24:07 PM] Don Jacques says: (y)

[10:24:07 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Aye

[10:24:13 PM] James Gholston can try



[10:24:20 PM] Shaun Moss says: k cool

[10:24:38 PM] Shaun Moss says: do I have a second for JG's motion to adjourn?

[10:24:44 PM] James Rogers says: Second

[10:24:46 PM] David A Dunlop says:       I seond

[10:24:50 PM] Peter Kokh says: I will try to put some of tonight's ideas into effect by then

[10:25:02 PM] Patti Hultstrand says: Talk to you all then.

[10:25:22 PM] Shaun Moss says: very well, I declare the 3rd Moon Society Town Meeting closed - thank you all for coming

[10:25:30 PM] Shaun Moss says: see you again in 2 weeks

[10:25:34 PM] Scotty Gammenthaler says: Thanks Shaun!

[10:25:41 PM] Peter Kokh says: Three cheers for Shaun's leadership!

[10:25:42 PM] Don Jacques says: gnite

[10:25:49 PM] Shaun Moss says: thank you!

[10:25:50 PM] Dana Carson says: agreed

[10:25:53 PM] James Rogers says: Good Meeting.  :D

[10:26:01 PM] Dana Carson says: thanks Shaun

[10:26:02 PM] Don Jacques says: (clap)

[10:26:03 PM] tuttlepc says: Very good meeting

[10:26:06 PM] tuttlepc says: G'night all

[10:26:26 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Thanks Shaun this was really poppin tonight!

[10:26:36 PM] Shaun Moss says: do you still want to have an AMP meeting now, or 15 minutes break, or later

[10:26:45 PM] Shaun Moss says: yes it was a great meeting!

[10:27:00 PM] Shaun Moss says: the Moon Society is having a great year

[10:27:02 PM] David A Dunlop says:       How is everyone feeling I good to go if others are not burned out

[10:27:11 PM] James Rogers says: I'm good to go

[10:27:13 PM] Peter Kokh says: How do we obtain the log for this meeting?

[10:27:28 PM] Charles F. Radley says: I will leave the window open, but I to turn in early, long day tomorrow

[10:27:50 PM] David A Dunlop says:      Thanks Charles. Good night

[10:28:02 PM] Don Jacques says: Shaun do you have the chat history?  I have one.

[10:28:24 PM] Shaun Moss says: if you have it then great, because I am having trouble saving it from my version of Skype

[10:28:25 PM] Peter Kokh says: I would like a record of tonight's meeting

[10:28:30 PM] David A Dunlop says:      How do you save this?

[10:28:37 PM] Charles F. Radley says: Peter, right-click on the window and select all

[10:28:39 PM] Charles F. Radley says: not sure on mac

[10:28:41 PM] Shaun Moss says: do you have it saved as a file, Don?

[10:28:53 PM] Dana Carson says: Peter, if you have the same as I under File use Save As and it will save the current chat as a file

[10:28:57 PM] Charles F. Radley says: I can psot it, where would you like me to send it?

[10:29:07 PM] Don Jacques says: I will when it closes out, but charles had a good idea

[10:29:08 PM] Shaun Moss says: what about the Yahoo group?

[10:29:31 PM] Don Jacques says: You can then copy and paste, faster than I could email

[10:29:48 PM] Peter Kokh says: Okay, got it.

[10:29:57 PM] Shaun Moss says: actually this Skype on Linux will not let me

[10:30:15 PM] Shaun Moss says: so I hope someone will post the transcript to the group or to me (shaun@starmultimedia.biz)