-- Start log: Thursday, July 27, 2000 9:46:41 pm ASI Meeting Server time --

jburk says, "one more time greg"
Greg-1 says, "Oh. OK."
Greg-1 says, "<gavel> The meeting of the Moon Society Board of Directors is
called to order on 27 July 2000 at 6:45 PM PDT." Scottyg says, "I think the
first order of business is to elect a Chairman" Greg-1 says, "First order
of business is to waive notice." dcarson nominates greg
Scottyg says, "I waive notice."
dcarson waives notice
Greg-1 says, "I waive the requirement for notice of Moon Society board
meetings." jburk says, "why are we waiving notice?" Greg-1 says, "Because
we didn't get out an advanced notice of the board meeting in accordance
with the bylaws." Scottyg says, "Since this is not (yet) a regularly
scheduled meeting, the Bylaws require 20 days notice unless waived." jburk
says, "ok"
Greg-1 says, "But if the board members waive that requirement, we can have
a legal meeting." Greg-1 says, "Do you waive notice, Jim?" jburk says,
"yes, but for this meeting only right?" Greg-1 says, "Yes, definitely."
Scottyg says, "Actually, attendance at the meeting is an automatic waiver
according to the Bylaws." dcarson says, "Jim is an officier also, not a
member bod" jburk says, "right"
Greg-1 says, "OK. We are meeting in the Moon Society Leadership Room in ASI
MOO." Scottyg says, "But Officers are Ex-officio members and have the same
notice rights." Greg-1 says, "Board members present are Jim Burk, Dana
Carson, Randall Severy, and Greg Bennett. Ian Randal Strock was notified of
the meeting, but is not present." Scottyg says, "Rhoda Bryant was also
notified but had an accident this afternoon and is unable to attend."
Greg-1 says, "As chairman of the Moon Society Interim Board (I think), I'm
serving as meeting chairman until the Board elects a permanent chairman."
Greg-1 says, "Rats. Is Rhoda OK?"
Severy-1 says, "Yes, she's fine"
Greg-1 says, "Ohthankgoodness."
Severy-1 says, "Just a little shaken, and extremely annoyed ;-)" Greg-1
says, "So, the first item of business is to elect a permanent chairmen for
this body." Greg-1 says, "I nominate Randall Severy." dcarson seconds
Greg-1 says, "Great! We have a name on the ballot! I move nominations be
closed." jburk says, "i nominate Greg Bennett :)" Scottyg says, "second"
Greg-1 says, "Aw, rats. Motion to close nominations fails for want of a
second." Greg-1 says, "But at least I tried."
Scottyg says, "I move the nominations be closed." dcarson second
Greg-1 says, "Oh wait! Were you seconding the nomination or the motion,
Scotty?" Scottyg says, "I was seconding the nomination of Greg Bennett."
jburk laughs
Greg-1 says, "Darn."
Greg-1 says, "OK. Moved and seconded that nominations be closed. Any
discussion on that motion?" Greg-1 says, "If not, those in favor of closing
nominations signify by saying 'aye'." Scottyg says, "aye"
Severy-1 says, "Aye"
dcarson says, "aye"
Greg-1 says, "Aye. The motion passes. Now for an election." Greg-1 says,
"We have two names on the ballot: Randall Severy and Greg Bennett." Greg-1
says, "Wanna make a campaign speech, Randall?" Scottyg says, "I think you
two should make campaign speeches in favor of one another." Severy-1 laughs.
Severy-1 is on the phone, is that equivalent of being out of the room? ;-)
Greg-1 says, "Just consider: Randall has more experience than I in running
a board of directors, and a much greater track record of success! " Greg-1
says, "He's better looking, too!" Greg-1 says, "And on the east coast."
Greg-1 says, "Which must be good for something." jburk says, "randall would
be good as CEO, but you should be chairman" jburk grins
Greg-1 says, "Who better to lead the Moon Society Board of Directors to the
Realm Beyond the Sky!" Greg-1 says, "Hey, I'm on a roll here"
Greg-1 says, "... trying to think of stuff to say that Randall won't use
against me. :)" Greg-1 says, "Oh, here's a good one: Since Randall isn't an
elected officer ... um ..." Greg-1 says, "... there won't be any
conflicting priorities between making policy and executing the daily
business of the Moon Society ..." Severy-1 says, "Somehow I escaped that
responsibility, so I suppose I do have some free time on my hands ;-)"
Scottyg says, "Actually, the last one is a good point." Greg-1 says,
"Thanks, Scotty. Now that I think of it, it *is* a good point." Greg-1
says, "And it'll look better if we don't have the same name in all the
honcho slots throughout the lunar empire." jburk says, "but as chair of the
leadership council, randall will be executing the daily business :)" Greg-1
says, "Jim, <sssshhhhhhh>. (You weren't supposed to notice that.)" jburk
says, "do you want a majordomo list for directors@moonsociety.org" Greg-1
says, "Anybody buying the argument that we'd look better if we didn't have
my name as chairman of the board *and* president of both the Moon Society
*and* ASI?" dcarson says, "yep"
dcarson says, "we need more naems all over the place" Greg-1 says, "How
about board-list@moonsociety.org?" jburk says, "not me, i think its better
to have president & chairman be the same person" Scottyg says, "But you
*aren't* Chairman of ASI." Greg-1 says, "Oh, that's right!"
Scottyg says, "Ok, Greg seems to have run out of arguments. Randall?"
Greg-1 says, "Oops. Darn. ... gotta think of some other way to stall for
time ..." Scottyg says, "Guess he's still on the phone." Greg-1 says,
"Yeah. See what a great communicator Randall is?" jburk says, "why
board-list and not directors?" jburk says, "its more descriptive"
Greg-1 says, "Jim, just because it's what I'm used to." jburk says,
"anybody else care either way?" Greg-1 says, "And I like mailing lists that
end in -list." Severy-1 is still on the phone
Scottyg says, "I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, Greg spearheaded the
creation of Moon Society and deserves the honor of being its first
Chairman. On the other hand, splitting the responsibilities is a good
idea." Greg-1 rolls 2d6 = 6.
Greg-1 says, "Oops. I should've stood on 10 and challenged Randall to beat
it." Greg-1 says, "I know! Randall types faster than I do!" Severy-1 says,
"Except when I'm on the phone ;-)" Greg-1 says, "Personally, I'm more
interested in making the Moon Society a success than having the honor of
being the first chairman of the board." Greg-1 says, "I have egoboo leaking
out my ears, so that's not really a consideration." dcarson says, "ick"
Severy-1 is talking with his wife and daughter on the phone, who just got
home after being stranded overnight in Houston on the way back from
Vegas... Greg-1 says, "Eeesh! Poor babies!"
dcarson says, "sounds like a fun flight" Scottyg says, "Yuk."
Greg-1 says, "I was stranded in Houston for 20 years. I know what it's
like." Severy-1 says, "While their luggage made it home on time :-("
Scottyg [to save]: time, anyone who hasn't, please take a look at :
http://www.moonsociety.org/organizing-documents/articles-of-incorporation.html
Scottyg says, "(It will come up later on the agenda.)" Greg-1 says, "I
think that we'll look better in public if we have a different name as
chairman of the board." Severy-1 says, "Ok, I'm back. Sorry for the
delay...." Greg-1 says, "And Randall deserves lots of recognition for
everything he has contributed to this effort, too." jburk says, "how about
Chief Lunatic"
Severy-1 says, "Hmm, campaign speech? I don't think I've ever made one of
those ;-)" Severy-1 says, "I suppose I'm somewhat torn, I think Greg is the
better candidate, but I know how busy he is, and I'm not too humble to
admit I'd be honored to serve in such a role" Greg-1 says, "Not to mention
the fact that Randall doesn't waste his time programming dice objects while
we're trying to get a meeting called to order. " Severy-1 laughs.
Greg-1 says, "So ... if the only reason for electing me is to heap some
more egoboo on me, I would urge folks to reconsider." Greg-1 says, "We
already have the advantage of my lofty day-job title from my role as
president." jburk says, "when we put it to a vote, if it ends up 2-2 we all
get to bash Ian for not being here" Severy-1 says, "Also, since in my
opinion the role of the Chairman of the Board is to delegate tasks to the
President, and since I've learned how to delegate things to Greg rather
effectively.... ;-)" Scottyg says, "No, we get to table it till the next
meeting." Scottyg says, "Ok, any further discussion?" Greg-1 says, "Yeah. I
should have thought to convene an official board meeting at the
conference." Greg-1 says, "If there's no further discussion, I guess we
have to proceed to a vote." Scottyg says, "I call the question."
Greg arrives amidst thundering applause. Greg says, "My clone's connection
seems to be hung up." jburk says, "are you trying to vote twice :)" Greg-1
says, "We can cast a ballot just by typing the name of the candidate we
each prefer. So do it." Greg says, "Anyhow, we can vote by just typing the
name of the candidate we prefer, so let's do this." Greg says, "Randall
Severy"
dcarson says, "Randall"
Scottyg says, "Randall"
Greg says, "(Oops. That message was stacked up in my clone's buffer
somehow.)" Greg says, "Hooray!"
Greg-1 says, "Randall Severy"
Greg-1 says, "This is a test."
Greg says, "It give sme the greatest honor to hand the gavel to
chairman-elect Randall Severy!" Severy-1 says, "Greg Bennett"
Severy-1 says, "Ok, so I didn't feel comfortable voting for myself ;-)"
Greg says, "Heh"
jburk says, "are we going to use chairman as the title for this position>?"
jburk is updating the webpage
Greg says, "Rather than Chief Loonie?"
Severy-1 says, "Ack! I guess that means I have to take over this rowdy
gathering?" Scottyg says, "Final count 3:1 in favor of Randall. (For the
record. These clones confuse things.)" Severy-1 laughs.
Greg says, "Yeah, sorry about that."
Greg-1 says, "OK."
Greg-1 disappears, leaving but a wistful memory that lingers in your mind.
Severy-1 says, "Ok, I must admit to being unprepared for the remainder of
this meeting, the agenda is sitting at home while I'm still stuck in the
office.... What else do we need to cover tonight?" Greg says, "You can
always hand the gavel to Scotty, Randall. He requested the meeting."
dcarson says, "2. Final Approval of Articles of Incorporation." dcarson
says, "3. Determine which B.O.D. members serve one-year terms and which
ones" dcarson says, "serve two-year terms."
dcarson says, "4. Discuss and decide financial, membership, and newsletter"
dcarson says, "arrangements between Moon Society and ASI." Severy-1 says,
"Nah, if I'm going to learn how to run these things, I might as well start
now ;-)" Severy-1 says, "Ouch! Sounds like a packed agenda!" jburk says,
"articles of incorp looks good to me" Scottyg says, "I Move that we assign
ourselves each a number in the order we are listed in the initial Board of
Directors in the Articles of Incorporation. Then we use the dice object to
generate two numbers (less than 5) which will select the two Directors
whose terms expire in one year." Severy-1 says, "Sounds like a good plan to
me, Scotty" Greg says, "Low men are stuck for 2 years?" jburk says, "roll
1d5!"
dcarson says, "list from minutes Greg"
dcarson says, "Bennett, Randall Severy, Scott Gammenthaler, Ian Strock, and
Dana Carson" Greg says, "If you type "roll dice" it will roll 2d6" jburk
rolls 2d6 = 3.
dcarson rolls 2d6 = 7.
Greg rolls 2d6 = 7.
jburk says, "how about we roll until we get numbers under 5" Scottyg rolls
2d6 = 8.
Greg says, "I figured we could just take the 3 lowest and stick them for 2
years, then the 2 highest for 1 year." Scottyg rolls 2d6 = 9.
Scottyg rolls 2d6 = 8.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 6.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 11.
Scottyg rolls 2d6 = 7.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 2.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 6.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 9.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 8.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 2.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 11.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 7.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 12.
jburk rolls 2d6 = 4.
Scottyg says, "whoa! 3 & 2"
Greg says, "I'm lost. What are we trying to do with the dice?" Greg says,
"2d6 will never roll a 1."
jburk says, "the first 3 didn't count, wink wink" jburk says, "that's true"
Scottyg says, "OOPS."
jburk says, "how do you change the dice you a rolling from 2d6?" Greg says,
"But if we take the 3 lowest = 2 years, and the others are 1 year, it'll
work." Greg says, "Oh, I didn't include a parser. What do you want it to
be?" jburk says, "1d5"
Greg says, "It's only one line so I can edit it in a second." Greg says,
"Test ..."
Greg rolls 1d5 = 4.
Greg rolls 1d5 = 2.
Greg says, "Yeah."
jburk says, "ok, who wants to do the official roll?" Greg says, "FYI, the
"roll" verb just says: player.location:announce_all
<ftp://player.location/announce_all>(player.name, " rolls 1d5 = ",
random(5), ".");" Severy-1 says, "Since Greg wrote the dice object, I'll
confer the honor on him of doing the official roll ;-)" Scottyg says, "BTW,
the "official" numbers are:" jburk says, "roll it twice"
Scottyg says, "Greg - 1"
Scottyg says, "Dana - 2"
Scottyg says, "Scotty - 3"
dcarson says, "roll 2d6 and 2 lowest have 2 year terms" Scottyg says,
"Randall - 4"
Scottyg says, "Ian - 5"
Greg says, "And the significance of rolling this 5-sided die is ... ?"
jburk says, "the two numbers are the 1 year term people" jburk says, "so
roll 1d5 twice"
Greg says, "Oh. OK."
Greg rolls 1d5 = 2.
Greg says, "That means Dana has a 1-year term?" jburk says, "yes"
Scottyg says, "Yep."
Greg rolls 1d5 = 5.
Greg says, "And Ian."
jburk says, "Ian"
Scottyg says, "Ian."
jburk says, "whew, that was complicated" Severy-1 says, "Ok, do we need to
do something to formalize this little game?" jburk says, "just mention in
the minutes that they "drew lots" :)" dcarson says, "bylaws said pick at
random, we just did" Greg says, "I move we adopt the following terms for
the board of directors, as determined by drawing lots:" Greg says, "Dana
Carson and Ian Randal Strock, 1 year. Jim Burk, Randall Severy, and Greg
Bennett, 2 years." Greg says, "End of motion."
jburk says, "I'm not on the board, you're missing scotty" Greg says, "Ack!"
Scottyg says, "By Article V, Section3a, the Board has used a random
selection process to select Dana Carson and Ian Randal Strock as the Board
members whose terms expire in 2001." dcarson second
Greg says, "Read: Dana Carson and Ian Randal Strock, 1 year. Scotty
Gammenthaler, Randall Severy, and Greg Bennett, 2 years." Severy-1 says,
"All in favor?"
Greg says, "aye"
Severy-1 says, "Aye"
Scottyg says, "Aye"
jburk says, "how long does the chairman position last?" Scottyg says, "One
year."
Severy-1 says, "Dana, your vote?"
Scottyg says, "Or until a new Chairman is voted in." dcarson says, "aye"
Severy-1 says, "Motion passes"
Greg says, "So Randall has a year to groom a replacement. :)" Severy-1
grins.
Severy-1 says, "Ok, let's wrap up the Articles of Incorporation... Has
everyone seen the final version?" Severy-1 says, "Is any further discussion
on the articles necessary?" Scottyg says, "Actually, the Chairmanship
doesn't expire until a new Chairman is voted in, or the Chairman is no
longer a member of the Board." Severy-1 says, "They look fine to me...."
Greg says, "I move we formally adopt the Articles of Incorporation as
presented by Scotty at this meeting." dcarson says, "second"
Severy-1 says, "Any discussion?"
dcarson says, "none"
Greg says, "Great work, Scotty!"
Scottyg says, "Greg, FYI, I added a new Article VI on management, which
seems to be required by Texas law." Severy-1 says, "Ok, let's vote. All in
favor?" Severy-1 says, "Aye"
Greg says, "aye"
Scottyg says, "Aye"
dcarson says, "aye"
Severy-1 says, "The motion passes unanimously" Greg says, "Yay!"
Severy-1 says, "The chairman of this august body would like to extend his
personal thanks to Scotty for leading the incorporation effort. Thanks,
Scotty!" Greg says, "Scotty, do we need to sign a new copy?" Severy-1 says,
"I assume so, if they haven't been filed yet" Severy-1 says, "And if they
have been filed, you'll need to sign an amended copy" Scottyg says, "Three
copies were put in the mail to you yesterday. Please sign all three and
return to me. (I assumed they would be adopted.)" Severy-1 says, "Wise
assumption ;-)"
Greg says, "Roger, wilco."
Scottyg says, "I'll file them as soon as they get back to me." Scottyg
says, "(You = Greg.)"
Severy-1 says, "Ok, now we move on to the fun stuff, working out the
details between ASI and the Moon Society..." Greg says, "I'm going to trade
places with my clone so I can use Rapscallion. I think that link has
stabilized now." Greg disappears, leaving but a wistful memory that lingers
in your mind. Greg-1 arrives amidst thundering applause. Greg-1 says,
"Back."
Severy-1 finishes clapping
jburk says, "I motion that we form a chapters council made up of elected
chapter reps -- requirements to be determined" Greg-1 says, "Heh. I need to
do something about that oarrive message. :)" Severy-1 says, "But we *like*
cheering for you, Greg! ;-)" Scottyg says, "I believe that our intent is to
turn over all membership processing, Newsletter publication, and incentives
to Moon Society?" Greg-1 says, "Yes."
Scottyg says, "Does Moon Society keep all of the membership dues, or does
ASI want a slice?" jburk says, "fyi, we got our first member registration
via the new website, a new member from New Zealand" Scottyg says, "Kewl!"
Greg-1 says, "I think the Moon Society should operate independently of ASI,
so it would keep its membership dues." Greg-1 says, "That leaves ASI to
figure out some new ways and means, of course." rhodab has arrived.
rhodab says, "Whew!"
Scottyg says, "Hi Rhoda!"
rhodab says, "Hi there"
Greg-1 says, "Yay! Rhoda is here!"
dcarson says, "how are you ?"
Scottyg says, "Sorry to hear about your problem." rhodab says, "I'm eating
chocolate cake." Scottyg says, "Glad you're ok!"
rhodab says, "Better than Scotch!"
Severy-1 laughs.
rhodab says, "Sorry I'm late."
Severy-1 says, "I think you had a good excuse, Rhoda, far better than Ian's
will likely be ;-)" rhodab says, "Uh oh"
rhodab says, "I would have been here sooner, but Fred got lost in
Hagerstown" Severy-1 chuckles.
Severy-1 says, "We just started discussing the transition of services from
ASI to the Moon Society" rhodab says, "What did I miss?"
rhodab says, "okay"
Greg-1 says, "We elected Randall as chairman of the board" Severy-1 says,
"I was drafted ;-)"
rhodab says, "YEAHHH!!!!! For real???"
Greg-1 says, "Yup!"
rhodab says, "Boy Greg. You're working this very well. :0)" Severy-1 says,
"And continuing the tradition of this motley crew, I was "virtually out of
the room" for most of the process ;-)" rhodab laughs.
Greg-1 says, "I managed to catch him on the phone, so he couldn't defend
himself. :)" Wendy arrives.
Wendy says, "I've been working on the railroad..." Wendy departs,
triumphantly.
rhodab says, "I like Wendy"
Greg-1 says, "Heh."
Severy-1 says, "Hmm, I thought I made this room off limits to the bots..."
rhodab says, "Wendy's not just ANY bot" Greg-1 says, "Wendy has a mind of
her own. :)" Severy-1 laughs.
Severy-1 says, "Anyway, just *how* do we go about migrating five years of
work from one organization to another?" Scottyg says, "There is a certain
sequence which must happen before Moon Society can open a bank account and
start running its own business. The sequence may take two or three weeks to
accomplish." Greg-1 says, "We convene a meeting of the ASI board and
implement the policies needed to transition the membership to the Moon
Society." Greg-1 says, "We convene a meeting of the ASI board and implement
the policies needed to transition the membership to the Moon Society."
Severy-1 says, "Oh, we also formally approved the final draft of the
Articles of Incorporation of the Moon Society" Severy-1 detects an echo in
here
Greg-1 says, "We write a letter of agreement between ASI and the Moon
Society." Greg-1 says, "That letter details the responsibilities,
liabilities, and assets being turned over." Greg-1 says, "(Sorry, I bounced
on the 'return' key.)" Severy-1 grins.
Scottyg says, "I propose that ASI continue collecting membership dues
through August, and that the transition to Moon Society be effective Sept
1." Severy-1 says, "Sounds like a good plan, Scotty, it will take us at
least that long to get things organized" Greg-1 says, "We could make the
transition effective immediately, and include in the agreement that ASI
will forward new membership applications to the Moon Society." Scottyg
says, "And in return for Moon Society accepting the newsletter liability
for ASI, I propose" Greg-1 says, "Absolutely, Scotty."
Greg-1 says, "I think the most urgent action is to update the Join page on
asi.org." Greg-1 [to tell]: people they are joining the Moon Society.
Greg-1 says, "To tell people they are joining the Moon Society." Greg-1
says, "Irksome social verb."
Severy-1 chuckles.
Scottyg says, "that we get a list of the ASI liability for as far in the
future as Team Director can report, and that Moon Society write ASI a check
for that amount, which will approach $3,000.00" Greg-1 says, "I think the
check goes the other way, Scotty." Severy-1 says, "I sure hope so, at the
moment we're flat broke!" jburk says, "you could just point that page to
www.moonsociety.org/register/ or have some brief text presenting the link"
Scottyg says, "Oops. ASI write Moon Society a check." Greg-1 says, "Jim,
yes."
Greg-1 says, "I think we need to include some explanation." rhodab says,
"Also, a link to Team Director where members can change their information,
etc." Greg-1 says, "Oh. I think the Moon Society should continue ASI's
membership incentives programs, too." Severy-1 says, "Definitely"
Greg-1 says, "Can we copy over the existing Team Director database?"
Severy-1 says, "Yup"
Scottyg says, "Now for the sticky part: Does Moon Society want Lunar
Traders to continue processing memberships? (Not the same question as
accepting credit card payments.)" Severy-1 says, "We'll have to manage the
transition carefully, so as to keep the membership info in sync" Greg-1
says, "Um ... since that is a contract service, we should consider it
carefully." Scottyg says, "And if we do, we need to draw up a contract. Tim
& Rhonda have a tendency to change things without asking." Severy-1 says,
"That *is* a tricky question, at the very least I think we need to assume
it will be a contracted effort, we need a reliable mechanism for handling
membership processing" Scottyg says, "And while its not a Moon Society
issue, the $4,000.00+ that Lunar Traders owes ASI needs to be considered."
Greg-1 says, "Besides credit card processing, what services does Lunar
Traders perform?" Greg-1 says, "They mail posters. We could handle that by
ordering posters as each new member is processed at an agreed-to rate."
Scottyg says, "They update the Team Director database and mail out the
incentives." Severy-1 says, "They respond (sometimes) to membership
questions and issues" Scottyg says, "Yes, and deal with problems of various
kinds." Greg-1 says, "That is Tim in his role as chairman of the Membership
Services Committee." jburk says, "is they more than just Tim Cadell?"
Greg-1 says, "But Tim really doesn't have enough time to fill that role for
the Moon Society." Scottyg says, "They is mostly Rhonda Sheffield, Tim's
employee." jburk says, "we can process credit card info directly from our
site, but we need to be set up to do that if we don't use lunar trader's
account/application" Scottyg says, "That's in work Jim."
Greg-1 says, "Candace takes care of mailing new member packets, yes?"
Scottyg says, "I have submitted an application, and its on hold until a
couple of questions get answered." Scottyg says, "Yes Greg, but I have some
doubts about whether she will continue much longer." Greg-1 says, "I'm
getting the impression that we need to recruit a whole new Membership
Services Committee." Scottyg says, "We could also look for our own employee
local to my area who could handle all of the membership stuff." Greg-1
says, "That might be the best way to handle it." Greg-1 says, "Got any
candidates in mind, Scotty?" Scottyg says, "That would also get it all back
in one P.O. Box address." Scottyg says, "I have a friend at work who may be
interested." rhodab says, "That would be the best plan." Greg-1 says,
"Someone reliable and cheap?" Scottyg says, "We still need a membership
chairman though." Greg-1 says, "Yup."
Scottyg says, "She's very reliable and efficient. I think we can get the
work done at a price we can afford if the registration form is done right."
Scottyg says, "Her name is Jennifer Day. I'll mention it to her tomorrow."
Severy-1 says, "That would be great, Scotty!" Greg-1 cancels plans for a
bot named Jennifer. rhodab grins.
jburk says, "however you need the form, let me know" Scottyg says, "What
would be really great would be for the form to generate an approval list,
and all that is needed to update the membership database is to correct any
problems and click an approve button." jburk says, "right we are moving
toward that, but we need to integrate team director" Greg-1 says, "And then
the data go directly into Team Director?" jburk says, "and the discussion
forums (majordomo/DNEWS)" jburk says, "right"
Scottyg says, "Yes Greg."
Greg-1 says, "I'm thinking we want a human being between the web form and
the input to Team Director, to flip a switch." Greg-1 [to prevent]:
mischief, abuse, and blunders from showing up in the membership database.
Scottyg says, "That's what the "Approve" button is for." jburk says, "well
to manage their subscriptions to groups it will be direct" Greg-1 says,
"Ah, so the form sets up a web page and then the membership services
committee clicks on the approve button." jburk says, "it's your own data,
why would you want to abuse yourself?" Scottyg says, "The "Approve" button
is something accessible only to the membership processing staff." Greg-1
says, "... or deals with whatever the problem is." Scottyg says, "Right
Greg."
Greg-1 says, "If we go straight from the web form to Team Director, then
someone can enter a bogus name and immediately get into Team Director."
Scottyg says, "Such as: Hold it until the check is received or the credit
card charge approved." Severy-1 says, "We've got a subset of that in the
Team Director Account Request processing, we're extending that to create
the actual membership records in a different Team Director installation
that is managing a medical association membership database" jburk says,
"once they are a member, though, some info should be immediately editable"
Scottyg [to be]: more explicit:
jburk says, "like group subscriptions, email address, etc" jburk says,
"maybe postal address"
Scottyg says, "A member fills out a form on the public web site." Greg-1
says, "It would be neat if a member could specify a TD username and
password in the membership application, and get it all done at once. Then
TD could send a welcome letter." rhodab says, "grins"
Severy-1 says, "Yup, there's no reason it couldn't do that" Scottyg says,
"The data from that goes into an interim database. Membership processing
staff accesses the interim database and approves each transaction,
correcting ant problems. The approved transactions update team director
automatically. Once entered in the database, a member can access and update
his own information." Greg-1 says, "So what would be left would be sending
welcome packages." Scottyg says, "This process could also send a welcome
email and create a mail-merge file for sending out the welcome packet."
Greg-1 says, "Golly. If Team Director had some instrumentalities ..." Wendy
arrives.
Wendy says, "Never mind Team Director! How about giving *me* some
instrumentalities?" Wendy says, "[to Randall] Off limits to bots! Hah!"
Wendy departs, triumphantly.
Greg-1 says, "(I think he's asleep.)"
Severy-1 groans.
Scottyg says, "Ok, sounds like we have the outlines of a plan. Do we need
to vote on any of this tonight?" Greg-1 says, "Now we know that our
chairman groans in his sleep." Severy-1 says, "I groan in the office (ask
Rhoda about that ;-), so why not in my sleep?" Greg-1 says, "Yeah ... we
need to accept ASI's proposal to assume responsibility for their
membership." rhodab says, "I wonder if those nose bands work as well for
groans as they do for snores?" dcarson says, "you need to find out if
Jennifer Day can/wil take the job" Scottyg says, "Or perhaps assign an
action item to prepare an agreement with ASI?" Greg-1 says, "Or not. I
think we need an agreement with ASI first." Greg-1 says, "Yeah, who can
draft an agreement?" Scottyg says, "I'll do that Dana. I'm pretty snowed
under with all the behind-the-scenes arrangements to take on any more
though." Greg-1 says, "(I have to write an article that's due in a couple
of days, so I'm kinda swamped at the moment.)" rhodab says, "I have to keep
Randall awake, so I have a full-time job. :0)" Greg-1 says, "((The article
is for a space encyclopedia of which the president of NSS is the editor.))"
Severy-1 laughs.
Severy-1 says, "WSD 2.0 is supposed to go commercial next week, so that
covers Rhoda and I ;-)" Greg-1 rolls 1d5 = 5.
Scottyg says, "Ian gets the task?"
Greg-1 says, "Ah! Let's appoint Ian to do it!" rhodab laughs.
Severy-1 says, "Yes! That'll teach him to skip a meeting ;-)" rhodab says,
"Did I "volunteer" for anything before I got here tonight?" Severy-1 grins.
Greg-1 says, "Not yet, Rhoda."
dcarson says, "no, you had a good reason" Severy-1 says, "That's for us to
know, and you to find out ;-)" rhodab grins.
Greg-1 says, "Well ... since there are no other volunteers forthcoming, I
can try to get that agreement written tomorrow. I have the day off." Greg-1
says, "Who would sign such an agreement? " Scottyg says, "Another question?
To what extent are the minutes of these meetings available for public view?
Same for financial information." Severy-1 says, "The boards of both
organizations?" dcarson says, "the president of the org I'd assume" Greg-1
says, "Logically, it would be the members of the board of each of the
organization, I think." Greg-1 says, "Since it's a policy and governance
issue." Greg-1 says, "This would require finding Boise." Scottyg says, "The
BOD adopts the agreement. The BOD can delegate signing to the President.
Alternately, the Secretary can certify the BOD resolution." Greg-1 says,
"Yeah, let's do it that way." Scottyg says, "Which one?"
rhodab says, "Which BOD?"
Scottyg says, "Both BOD's, on behalf of their respective organizations."
rhodab says, "Which brings to mind - most banks require a corporate
resolution when you open an account, and is usually signed by all officers.
Is that true with your bank, Scotty?" Scottyg says, "I was asking which of
the two methods Greg liked." Greg-1 says, "If the society presidents sign
it, they're both me. But if the secretaries sign it, that's Scotty and
Rhoda." Greg-1 says, "So I like option 2 better." Scottyg says, "The only
require that i sign a form which states that the BOD has selected the bank
as a repository for the organizations funds." rhodab says, "Good ole Texas
banks!"
Wendy says, "I'll sign it!" <gd&r>
Greg-1 says, "So ... I'll draft it. The boards will adopt it. The
secretaries will sign it. And we're official. Good plan?" dcarson says,
"yep"
Severy-1 says, "Sounds good to me!"
Scottyg says, "Good plan. I move that the President be directed to prepare
an agreement providing for transfer of all membership-related processing
and responsibilities from ASI to Moon Society." Greg-1 says, "As president
of the Moon Society, I think we should ask ASI for at least enough money to
cover membership processing for the existing members, to send dues
reminders and such." dcarson says, "sounds right"
Greg-1 says, "Oops. I'm out of order."
dcarson says, "second scottyg"
Severy-1 says, "Is there a second on Scotty's motion?" Severy-1 says, "Ok,
any discussion?"
Scottyg says, "May I amend my motion?"
Greg-1 says, "I was wondering if I could second a motion to direct myself
to do something." Severy-1 says, "Certainly, Scotty!"
Severy-1 says, "I'm easy ;-)"
Scottyg says, "Add: Said agreement to provide for fair and reasonable
compensation to Moon Society in return for accepting this responsibility
and liability." Greg-1 says, "(Now Dana should say "second" again.)"
dcarson says, "resecond"
Greg-1 says, "Heh."
Severy-1 says, "All in favor of Scotty's motion, as amended?" Greg-1 says,
"aye"
Scottyg says, "Aye."
rhodab says, "aye"
Severy-1 says, "Aye"
dcarson says, "aye"
Severy-1 says, "The motion passes unanimously" rhodab says, "Jim leave?"
Greg-1 says, "It says he's here."
Greg-1 says, "'It' being 'where'."
rhodab says, "Then it's not unanimous"
Severy-1 says, "Jim's not a member of the Board" Greg-1 says, "Jim isn't a
member of the board. He's an ossifer." rhodab says, "Then neither am I."
Severy-1 says, "I wasn't going to spoil your fun ;-)" rhodab says,
"However, what do the bylaws say" rhodab says, "And, you need a secretary
of the board, in that case" Greg-1 says, "Scotty said something earlier
about officers being ex-officio members of the board, I think." rhodab
says, "yep, I was looking for it." Greg-1 says, "Ack! Furshlugginer
Netscape!" rhodab says, "Really!"
dcarson says, "http://www.moonsociety.org/organizing-documents/" Greg-1
says, "ARTICLE V - BOARD OF DIRECTORS " rhodab says, "I have it"
Greg-1 says, "Section 5. Ex-Officio Members: All Officers of the Society
who are not elected members of the Board of Directors shall be ex-officio
members" Greg-1 says, "thereof."
rhodab says, "Always thereof. :0)"
Greg-1 says, "Not to mention whereas and wherefor." Scottyg says, "And
Article X Section 1g defines the rights and limitations of Ex-officio
members." rhodab says, "Okay guy! I get it!"
Severy-1 grins.
Greg-1 says, "Yup! That covers it."
Severy-1 says, "Ok, is there any other business to come before this board
tonight?" Scottyg says, "(Helps to have been the one who put it together.)"
Greg-1 says, "Sure does."
rhodab says, "Memorized it, have you? :)" Scottyg says, "Close Rhoda!"
Scottyg says, "I move we adjourn the meeting." Greg-1 says, "second dat"
dcarson says, "second"
Severy-1 says, "All in favor?"
Scottyg says, "Aye"
Severy-1 says, "Aye"
Greg-1 says, "yo"
dcarson says, "aye"
Severy-1 says, "Thwap! This meeting is hereby adjourned at 11:58 pm EDT on
July 28, 2000!" Scottyg says, "recorder off"

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