-- Start log: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:59:03 pm ASI Meeting Server time --

dcarson says, "talked to Greg online last night and sent a note to Steve
jackson about my PR idea" Severy says, "Cool!"
Scottyg has arrived.
Scottyg says, "Hi ya'll"
dcarson says, "I get a "The specified module could not be found" for my
local TCP connection on the NT box. Where do I look to fix it?" Severy
says, "Hi, Scotty!"
dcarson says, "helo Scotty"
Scottyg says, "In the Recycle Bin?"
Severy says, "I would start in Control Panel->Networks, Dana. Does it say
which module?" dcarson says, "of course not"
DPagan follows Severy into the room
DPagan says, "hallo"
dcarson says, "helo"
Scottyg says, "Have you been using TCP for anything else?" DPagan says, "Am
I interrupting anything?" dcarson says, "the dialup works fine, this is the
local ethernet apparently" dcarson says, "not yet Dave"
DPagan says, "does anyone use Linux?"
dcarson says, "everyone"
Scottyg says, "Check for TCP/IP binding to the ethernet card" Scottyg says,
"I do Dave"
Severy says, "Oops, this is a private meeting, Dave, we forgot to lock the
door..." DPagan says, "I just installed MAndrake 7.2 and have just
downloaded Netscape 6, but I can't find the icon to launch it" DPagan says,
"I'll leave it a second"
Scottyg says, "What desktop manager?"
DPagan says, "Konqueror"
Scottyg says, "Hmmm. I'm not familiar with that one. Most of them let you
define a new "Launcher", and browse an icon list for it." Scottyg says, "(I
use mostly Red Hat)"
DPagan says, "What is the directory it would install to, I don't see any
C:Program FilesNetscape :)" dcarson says, "pop a xterm and do a find /
-name '*netscape*' -print" Scottyg says, "/usr/X11R6/bin/netscape usually"
Scottyg says, "or which netscape."
Scottyg says, "find searches everything which takes a while. whick is
speedy." Scottyg says, "oops - which"
Scottyg says, "But which only works if netscape is in the defined PATH
environment variable." DPagan says, "what would it be again i tried find /
-which *netscape* -print and it said invalid predicate -which" Scottyg
says, "just "which netscape""
DPagan says, "WHat is the best distro for AMD cpus, cause I heard Mandrake
is INtel optimized and it does seem a little slow and the hardrive is
louder then normal" DPagan says, "it said /usr/bin/netscape" Scottyg says,
"Thats where it is then." Scottyg says, "there may also be a
netscape-communicator and netscape-navigator." DPagan says, "that was the
old version" DPagan says, "BUt I'm sure you wanna start the meeting I'll be
idling in the commons" DPagan goes home.
DPagan follows Severy into the room
dcarson says, "use the find command then to find all files with netscape in
their name" Scottyg says, "netscape is usually a link to
netscape-navigator" DPagan says, "oops"
DPagan says, "I used follow severy to get here :)" dcarson says, "rubber
leashes"
DPagan goes home.
DPagan follows Severy into the room
DPagan says, "wtf"
DPagan says, "I turned it off"
Scottyg says, "type follow"
Severy says, "Try "follow off", Dave"
DPagan says, "oops I thought typing follow severy agains would turn it off"
DPagan says, "cya again"
DPagan goes home.
Scottyg says, "I think follow (nothing) turns it off too." dcarson says,
"what we do if a user ever picks off as a nick I don't know" Scottyg says,
"LOL"
dcarson says, "classic sysadmin story about a user named core whos files
kept vanishing" Scottyg says, "Randall, what is the correct URL for WSD
(Express?) for the moon-board?" Severy says, "The easiest way to get there,
Scotty, is to go to http://www.moonsociety.org/private/board and use the
button on the bottom of the page" Scottyg says, "Yep, but I'm duplicating
that link on the Treasurer's Reports index page. That's ok, I got it from
the above reference." Scottyg says, "Ok, got the financials all caught up.
Are we having a meeting tonight?" dcarson says, "I though so"
dcarson says, "when I ran into greg last night he didn't say he would be
busy" Scottyg says, "Ok, I'll be back in a couple of minutes." TimCadell
arrives.
TimCadell says, "Hey, guys. Small meeting tonight?" dcarson says, "looks
like it"
Severy says, "Yup, just us chickens here tonight" dcarson says, "cluck"
TimCadell clucks
Severy says, "Greg called earlier to say he was hosting an office party to
celebrate Gore's concession speech tonight, so he won't be able to make it
;-)" dcarson says, "ah"
TimCadell says, "Celebrating, huh? Man." Severy laughs.
TimCadell says, "Well, on TLRC business, I checked out elance.com a little
and didn't see any jobs that jump out at me. Several of them are so vague
that they're basically asking for suggestions/proposals, not just quotes."
dcarson says, "ditto"
TimCadell says, "Oh, and I was reading something and remembered a book from
around 1994: Project: Solar Sail. They were proposing to have a race (I'll
have to find the book to remember all of the details) with some ship
releasing a bunch of solar sails from different teams." dcarson says, "also
add ants.com and cosource.com to places to check" dcarson says, "Henry
Spencer was involved with the Canadian entry, the downturn in the econamy
killed the corp sponsership needed for them" TimCadell says, "I would
suggest that we might be able to organize something of the kind as a race
to get out of cislunar space. I don't think the craft would weigh much
taken together, so we might be able to wangle a ride on some lifter, maybe
even a launch from ISS?" Scottyg says, "Well, I'll give a short report of
my activities and then I think I'll check out. I'm half sick plus have
other things I need to do." dcarson says, "ga Scotty, and get well"
TimCadell says, "Do I need to send in a proposal to be the Chapters
Contact? Right now, it looks like we're still looking for one." TimCadell
says, "Yeah, I have other things to do tonight as well." Scottyg says, "1.
The Moon Society non-profit paperwork has been sent to Ted Lindsay for
review. I'll file it as soon as I hear from him." Scottyg says, "2. Jim is
working on tying the Registration page into CyberCash. He thought he might
finish that today." TimCadell says, "Great!"
Scottyg says, "3. Financial statements through November have been published
in the usual location." Scottyg says, "Dana, any progress on the posters?"
dcarson says, "have some ready, need to get mor rolled and tubed" dcarson
says, "more"
dcarson says, "we've finished off the first batch finially" TimCadell says,
"How big was the first batch?" Scottyg says, "Ok, need at least 50, plus
some more soon after that." dcarson says, "hope to catch Bob this weekend
and get that done" Scottyg says, "First batch was 71."
dcarson says, "I meant first batch rolled and tubed, about 200-300 hundred
I think" dcarson says, "I thought I counted 75 in that box, must have lost
count" TimCadell says, "That's what I was asking about, Dana." Scottyg
says, "Oh! Ok, 200-300 would take care of us for a while." dcarson says,
"If I can't get time to do more I'll send whats left and some rolled losly
tath can be put in the mailing tubes" dcarson says, "loosly that"
Scottyg says, "loosely?"
TimCadell says, "Lucy?"
Scottyg says, "Not tightly?"
dcarson says, "If I can't get more rolled and in the plastic wrappers I'll
just roll some and stick them in the box to be hand rolled and put in the
mailing tubes to get by until I can get more packeded" Scottyg says,
"Anyone else have news or other items?" TimCadell says, "Nope. Anyone want
to buy a t-shirt for Christmas? :-)" TimCadell says, "Oh, and if any of you
has time to test http://www.lunartraders.com/cat/ , I think it's mostly
bugfree at this point." Scottyg says, "Nope, bought diamonds instead."
TimCadell says, "I'm going to switch over (using https from moonsociety.org)
as soon as I can." dcarson says, "sent an email the Steve Jackson asking
about having Moon Society doing an approved by for the hard SF near
Earth/Moon book their doing early next year" dcarson says, "Greg is willing
to"
TimCadell says, "Hmmm, interesting. LT will probably want to pick that up,
too." dcarson says, "and we'll have to slip as many references in the
playtest as possible" TimCadell says, "How about CyberTeams? How's it going
over there?" dcarson says, "looks like it should be a good year from here"
Scottyg says, "Tim, when I access that URL with Netscape, I get a not found
on /style.css" TimCadell says, "/style.css? Hmmm, must be a bad pointer.
Thanks, Scotty!" TimCadell says, "How about now?"
Severy says, "Going gangbusters at the moment, Tim, the end of the year
always seems to be the busiest for us" TimCadell says, "Strange. It always
slows down around here." Severy has disconnected.
TimCadell says, "Not on purpose, I'm sure." Severy has connected.
Scottyg says, "Ok, it looks ok now Tim." Severy says, "*@$JLKJ*@$ ISPs :-("
TimCadell says, "Thanks Scotty!"
TimCadell says, "You can actually put orders through without them causing
you any charges. It's on test right now. They go into the order system, but
with a different company id so Rhonda doesn't see them." Scottyg says,
"Does it display different slogans each time you connect?" TimCadell says,
"Actually, every time it goes to any page, it picks a different one."
TimCadell says, "And right now, the only product it recommends is the new
t-shirt, but any or all items can be on the list that gets recommended."
Scottyg says, "I accessed it with both IE and Netscape, and it seems ok
now." TimCadell says, "Thanks, Scotty! I appreciate it!" TimCadell says,
"And thanks again for the use of the moonsociety.org website for https."
TimCadell says, "It looks like I should have lt's ssl pretty soon now."
Scottyg says, "That's good. Did you get your key from pair ok?" TimCadell
says, "Oh, yeah, once I reminded them it came the next day." TimCadell
says, "Confirming my existence with VeriSign was a little harder, but
useful. It appears that Lunar Traders is not listed in the phone book!
Something that needs to be changed." dcarson says, "oops"
Scottyg says, "These "virtual" businesses do have their problems."
TimCadell says, "Well, we have The Jester's Court listed, just never
thought to add Lunar Traders. Luckily, all they wanted was a signed letter,
notarized, saying that I had authority to do this." Scottyg says, "They're
easier to satisfy than Thawte." TimCadell says, "Hey, Randall, how hard
would it be to start setting up these meetings with networked phone
connections? It seems to be that, although we wouldn't have logged
meetings, we'd get things done a lot faster." TimCadell says, "Scotty, I'm
sure they are, and they certainly charge for the convenience." Severy says,
"What do you mean by "networked phone connections"?" Scottyg says,
"Conferenced voice over IP." Severy says, "Point to point voice over IP is
easy, it's the multipoint conferencing that's a pain at the moment" Scottyg
says, "Sounds like a good product idea." TimCadell says, "I've seen a Perl
script (!) for Linux that let's you do point to point in about 16 lines, if
you have the drivers on your machine for the soundcard, and that includes
MP3 compression. If we had something similar and a server running that
could decompress the incoming signals, sum them to mix the channels, then
recompress and send them back, that'd do it. There'd be a bit of a delay, I
admit." Severy says, "The icecast server we used to broadcast last year's
Lunar Development Conference does one-to-many connections, but I haven't
seen many-to-many available yet for just voice" Scottyg says, "Yep, you'd
need a server doing one to many and many to one" TimCadell says, "I
wouldn't mind if it was press-to-talk. That would remove a lot of bandwidth
considerations." Severy says, "White Pine Software sells their "reflector"
server for multipoint voice and video conferencing, but pricing starts at
$8000" TimCadell says, "Man, but we don't need video. I swear this has to
be easier and cheaper than that." Scottyg says, "Video needs too much
bandwidth." Severy says, "I experimented a bit with the freeware reflector
that was developed at Cornell before White Pine bought the rights to it,
but I couldn't get it to work" Scottyg says, "And synchronizing video is a
much more demanding problem." TimCadell says, "CUSeeMe?"
Severy says, "Yup, CUSeeMe"
TimCadell says, "I'll cogitate on it."
TimCadell says, "Well, if that's it, I need to get going. See you all
later!" dcarson says, "gnight Tim"
Scottyg says, "Same here."
dcarson says, "get some rest Scotty"
Scottyg says, "See ya'll later."
TimCadell says, "Yup, hope you feel better, Scotty." TimCadell has
disconnected.
Scottyg has disconnected.
The housekeeper arrives to cart TimCadell off to bed. The housekeeper
arrives to cart Scottyg off to bed. dcarson goes home.

-- End log: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 10:49:04 pm ASI Meeting Server time --