-- Start log: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 9:05:46 pm ASI Meeting Server time-- 
Strangelv-2 arrives. Lunadyne says, "Excellent. Starting off with the
membership report, I'm showing 146 members on the rolls. It's been
bounceing between that and 144 since I started, so I consider it flat."
Lunadyne says, "Any comments on membership issues?" Lunadyne says, "Looks
like that's a negatory." Lunadyne says, "Next up is Treasury. How is the
project progressing?" Strangelv-2 looks ah Dana dcarson says, "entering
data, more than a year caught up" Scottyg has arrived. Lunadyne says, "Hi
Scotty! Dana, how much catching up do have to do?" Scottyg says, "Hi all!"
Strangelv-2 waves. dcarson says, "another 3 years+" dcarson says, "end of
May maybe at the rate I'm going" Chard arrives in cloud of smoke. Chard
says, "here" alanzaldua has arrived. Strangelv-2 waves. Lunadyne says, "Not
bad. I'm guessing CPAs will be a lot more available after the middle of the
month." bnault says, "yes, indeed." dcarson says, "I expect so, will see
mine monday and I'll be done " alanzaldua says, "Hi everyone!" Lunadyne
says, "Mailed mine this week. One extra paycheck." dcarson says, "I had to
find records form 94 on a stock we've had forever and sold last year"
alanzaldua says, "I assume we are still on the first agenda item:
membership." dcarson says, "second, treasery" alanzaldua says, "ok"
Lunadyne says, "Anything on membership, Al?" Lunadyne says, "I've been
going through my own records and putting them in order." alanzaldua says,
"Nothing on membership. " Lunadyne says, "Okay, end of May on getting the
records in order. Let's start getting serious about finding a CPA around
the end of April. " alanzaldua says, "The CPA was to get our books in order
and also deal with late tax filings, right?" Lunadyne says, "As a reminder,
what we're looking for is an "unqualified" audit letter (a/k/a clean
audit)and a backfilling of our IRS form 990-Ns." dcarson says, "yes"
Lunadyne says, "Having the books in order facilitates all of that."
Lunadyne says, "And unleashes everything else." alanzaldua says, "Please
remind me: who was in charge of finding a CPA?" dcarson says, "mandatory
unless we pay a fortune for them to enter the data" dcarson says, "probably
me since local would be easiest" alanzaldua says, "OK" dcarson says, "will
talk to mine when I do taxes monday" Lunadyne says, "Dana & Scotty were in
charge of that, but if you have someone in mind..." Lunadyne says, "Any
other Treasury issues?" pjbanyai says, "Here are the Requirements for
Guidestar and and therefore Google non-profit account as well as possibly
others. Required Fields - These fields must be completed before your
profile can be submitted for approval. (1)Governing Board: Board Chair
First Name - You must enter in a first name (2) Governing Board: Board
Chair Last Name You must enter in a last name. (3) Management Practices:
Review for Good governance and Ethical Practice - Select whether
organization has reviewed the Panel on the Nonprofit Sector's principles
for Good Governance and Ethical Practices. (4) Programs - You must enter
between 1 and 5 Programs. (5) Governing Board: Board Members - You must
enter at least 1 Board Member. Required for the GuideStar Exchange Seal (1)
Document Uploads: Annual Report OR You must enter in at least one Annual
Report. (2) Document Uploads: Financial Statement You must enter in at
least one Financial Statement" dcarson says, "but if we have a good and
inexpensive one elsewhere can probably email a quickbooks file" pjbanyai
says, "I am guessing we can at the very least now get a financial statement
and annual report together." alanzaldua says, "Mine is incredibly
expensive, and we are going to ditch her. Since you have to see your CPA
next Monday, Dana, you might as well ask for a cost estimate to do the
work. " dcarson says, "will do" dcarson says, "or if he knows anyone else
that does nonprofits" alanzaldua says, "yes" Lunadyne says, "Okay, next
item is MMM. Peter is resting at the cabin, so this should be a short
agenda item." dcarson says, "two useful links which I'll email also"
dcarson says, "
http://blog.threepress.org/2011/06/01/can-an-author-create-an-epub-file-using-normal-tools-part-1-pages/"
dcarson says, "http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php" Lunadyne
says, "I do most of my composing in Notepad." alanzaldua says, "I have only
one comment about the MMM: Sometimes there are typos in the text. Perhaps
it would be good for a second pair of eyes to look at the text before it
goes to publication?" bnault says, "Latest issue = lots of typos,
unfortunately." dcarson says, "needs a reliable volunteer, and one tht can
actually spell" Lunadyne says, "May is going to be our ISDC prep issue."
Lunadyne says, "Should we have Peter circulate the text before publishing
to our volunteer editors?" alanzaldua says, "Mmmmm. Wouldn't hurt. "
Lunadyne says, "I've also been thinking about the 2 issues by the new guys
option he proposed. " bnault says, "it's a good idea, IMHO" alanzaldua
says, "It's a GREAT idea. " Lunadyne says, "It is, but it gets back to the
relinquishing the reins issue. Maybe we do have to ease into it on his
terms." alanzaldua says, "Yes, but it was his idea to do it that way. "
Lunadyne says, "Perhaps an algebraic progression: 2 in year one, 4 in year
two, 6 in year three, etc." bnault says, "yes" alanzaldua says, "Poco a
poco se va lejos. " pjbanyai says, "The use of a cloud editing app would
help in granting access to others for collaborative editing." bnault says,
"yes, asking others to revise a doc without some sort of collaborative tool
might just complicate thinhs" dcarson says, "getting more people to write
articles so he edits instead of writing most of the content would help
also" Lunadyne says, "The issue there would be to insure we also had
current drafts on individual computers as well." Scottyg says, "Re typos:
Using Spell Check would be good too." bnault says, "btw, the collaborative
tool I suggest we investigate 1st is Google Docs." Lunadyne says, "For May
I'd like to see articles on our ISDC track theme of Cislunar Econosphere. "
pjbanyai says, "Dont forget we also have two other publications. Moonbeams
and Moonscapes." Lunadyne says, "I'm working on one on how the JOBS Act can
facilitate capital flows to NewSpace firms." alanzaldua says, "Cool."
Lunadyne says, "We do. Those are kind of Chuck Lesher's projects." Lunadyne
says, "We provide a means of distribution, as with MMM." Lunadyne says,
"Ben, how far along are we in prepping old MMMs for Kindle?" bnault says,
"waiting for Peter to send me a Word version of a reformatted issue..."
Lunadyne says, "Got it. I'll speak with Peter on these matters after he
gets back." bnault says, "Peter seems intent on going through all issues
and reformatting into single-column. I would have preferred we deal with
one issue first, start to finish." alanzaldua says, "Before leaving the MMM
issue, have we decided to ask Peter if someone can check for typos?"
Lunadyne says, "I'll suggest he circulate the final draft to our volunteer
editors before going to press." dcarson says, "if someone will commit to
doingit yeas ask" bnault says, "for the Kindle project, if I may..."
Lunadyne says, "Go ahead." bnault says, "I had mentionned a few meetings
ago that (1) we get a copy of Word for Peter and (2) that we look at
getting actual Kindkles for the team..." bnault says, "Number 2 can wait
until later, but maybe we should look into #1 now" dcarson says, "wonder if
Amazon will donate to non-profits?" Lunadyne says, "Yeah, if he's going to
remain prime editor for a while we should make sure he has a copy." bnault
says, "Microsoft has non-profit prices" bnault says, "don't know about
Amazon" dcarson says, "might want to look at Scrivner that I posted a link
to, it will output Kindle files" Lunadyne says, "Do we need to put the
purchase of a copy of MS Word for Peter for use on the MMM/Kindle project?"
Lunadyne says, "to a vote." pjbanyai says, "Microsoft link at
http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/community-tools/nonprofits/whos-eligible/"
bnault says, "thanks Paul" dcarson says, "worth applying to them for sw"
Lunadyne says, "Sounds like we don't have to put it to a vote. On the
Kindles, I think I'm procrastinating in the anticipation we can get them
even cheaper in a few months." bnault says, "no problem Ken, out first
attempts can be on virtual Kindles." Chard says, "I'm working on an article
- was going to try to have it ready this weekened" Lunadyne says, "What
about?" Chard says, "last weekend actually - but it's been fairly busy
where I work" bnault says, "I suggest we apply for donated software, since
it requires form filling, and presumable financial info, maybe our
Treasurer can look into this??" Chard says, "MICA.. they have a new app
online that allows anyone to help map lunar surfaces" bnault says, "eval )"
Chard says, "it's .. I don't have the links on me atm... I'll send you a
rough draft?" alanzaldua says, "Wow! Is this article for the MMM?" Chard
says, "yes" alanzaldua says, "Looking forward to seeing it!" Chard says,
"^^" dcarson says, "ling list of writing stuff Amazo supports" dcarson
says, "
http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link_357524442_4?ie=UTF8&node=13786431&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-2&pf_rd_r=1EDC1TFRJXVZYXSAHD8V&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1327673042&pf_rd_i=13786401"
Lunadyne says, "Don't see anything at the MICA website." Chard says, "I
have to leave and come back... " Chard says, "they're throwing me out of
here... closing cshop" Lunadyne says, "We'll get to PR later." Chard says,
"kk" Chard has disconnected. dcarson says, "can also setup a Amazon account
for Moon Society and have a wish list that people can but that we need"
Lunadyne says, "Now that is a GREAT idea." dcarson says, "but Amazon itself
gets low marks for danating to anybody" Lunadyne says, "I've always wanted
a LunaKindle loaded with all the Moon reference books." pjbanyai says,
"Amazon non-profit status is also based on Guidestar." dcarson says, "otoh
Bezos is a big space supporter, founded [edit] Blue Origin and is currently
funding the recovery of to Apolo engins from Apollo 11?" alanzaldua says,
"True. He should be sympathetic. " bnault says, "so, for any of this to
work, we need to get our Guidestar fixed, yes?" dcarson says, "yes"
Lunadyne says, "Paul, are you registered to get a copy of the Best
Practices for Non-Profits document?" The housekeeper arrives to cart Chard
off to bed. pjbanyai says, "I have currently the only Guidstar admin
accouynt. I have sent out invitations which would grant new access
accounts." Lunadyne says, "Alright, moving on to ISDC...our line-up at this
point is me opening with my Guide to Cislunar Space. Then we've got John
Cserup to talk about mining the Moon from L1. Then Dave Dunlop has hour
two. Hour three might be GRAIL. Hour four might be GLXP." dcarson says, "a
iPod Touch or small Android tablet might be useful for Peter, keep stuff
handy and see how things look on the Kindle app on a small screen" Lunadyne
says, "How many folks are going to be at the ISDC?" dcarson says, "same
weekend as Balticon where I help with science track" pjbanyai says, "I
think Best Practices for Non-Profits document is supposed to be one of
several documents along with the bylaws. For example NSS has a collection
of corporate documents at http://www.nss.org/docs/" dcarson says, "woudl
like to meetup Thursday since Balticon starts Friday" dcarson says, "maybe
we can all get together for dinner?" Lunadyne says, "Should I shoot for a
Thursday night hospitality suite?" alanzaldua says, "I can't do ISDC this
year, but definitely will be present in San Diego 2013. I already have a
room reserved in SD. " dcarson says, "I am planning on being at
Worldcon/Chicon, World SF convention, August 30-September 3, 2012" dcarson
says, "thats in Chicago this year hence Chicon" Lunadyne says, "Any
speaking gigs?" dcarson says, "no, they do have Story Musgrave as a guest
of honor" dcarson says, "https://chicon.org/" Lunadyne says, "There's an
NSS track meeting tomorrow night. I'll be on it." dcarson says, "if you
want me to pick up stuff for a hospitility suite at BJs wholesale an bring
it down I can" Lunadyne says, "The most important thing for an NSS
hospitality suite is alcohol. In our case, Moon-themed alcohol." Lunadyne
says, "Moon pies didn't go over so well." Strangelv-2 hasn't been to San
Diego since 1972 Lunadyne says, "Glow in the dark stuff was warmly
received." dcarson says, "they can't make Moonshot beer anymore, no
caffinated alcohol" Lunadyne says, "Oh, there's plenty of other stuff."
Strangelv-2 says, "Would we get into trouble for mixingo ur own?" Lunadyne
says, "Leave that to the SEDS kids and their rocket fuel." Strangelv-2
somehow thinks 'bathtub rum' when Ken mentions something called rocket fuel
Lunadyne says, "They use dry ice to super-concentrate the alcohol. It's
wicked stuff." Scottyg says, "Mixing a drink with alcohol & caffeine is ok
- AKA Irish coffee." Lunadyne says, "Anyone have a recipe for Moon coffee?"
Scottyg says, "Kahlua & vodka?" dcarson says, "
http://www.thuntek.net/coffeemoons/moonsite.html" pjbanyai says, "If I
renew my Martian membership I might be able to go to this years Mars
Society convention in August. If I had known before the day of the
registration deadline, I would have attended the first NIAC symposium in
Pasadena last week. I found out about it right before work and when I had
time to register they had already closed registration." Lunadyne says,
"NIAC did some cool stuff back in the day." Lunadyne says, "Moving on in
the agenda, anyone have any updates for the upcoming elections?" bnault
says, "do i need to run for re-election?" bnault says, "can't remember"
alanzaldua says, "When are the elections exactly?" Lunadyne says, "Looks
like, Ben. IIRC, they open in May and close July 31." Lunadyne says, "Also,
Ron needs to be replaced." pjbanyai says, "Al will be eligible to run since
he will have a full continuous year of membership after Apr 15, 2012."
Lunadyne says, "Al, you think you're up to it?" alanzaldua says, "Yes, I
would like to run." bnault says, "great!" Chard arrives in cloud of smoke.
dcarson says, "Two (2) Moon Society offices are up for election or
re-election. They are President (inc. Ken Murphy who was elected last year
to fill the second year of the term vacated by retiring president, Peter
Kokh) and Secretary currently held by Peter Kokh who was elected last year
to fill the second year of a vacancy. Both may run for reelection." dcarson
says, "Three (3) Moon Society Board of Directors positions are open,
including one formerly held by Fred Hills who has retired. The second half
of a 2-year term held by Ron Brooks who is also retiring is open as well.
We need at least 2 new people. We have also been operating without a
Chairman of the Board for some time, Any director may volunteer. The Board
is scheduled to convene once a quarter, (the 3rd Wednesday of the second
month of every quarter (Feb, May, Aug, Nov) but may be convened for urgent
business at any time Board members also belong to the Management Committee
(along with officers) and this Committee meets twice a month to take care
of all matters not specifically reserved to the Board by the Society?s
ByLaws." dcarson says, "fro Mar 1 email" Chard is on 3G mobile Lunadyne
says, "Welcome back Jason." Scottyg says, "Jason - On a laptop or a Smart
Phone?" Chard just got a phone call IRL, but e will be right back. Chard
says, "lol" Chard says, "thunderbolt" pjbanyai says, "Note - Officers are
non-voting ex-officio board members also eligible to volunteer for Chairman
of Board." Lunadyne says, "Someone in mind there, Paul?" Lunadyne says,
"I'm happy filling in in the interim." Chard says, "I said phone.. it
didn't transmit. xnoecho " pjbanyai says, "You have already been acting
Chairman. Might as well make it official." Lunadyne says, "How do the Board
members feel about it?" Chard says, "on the PR links... we need to have a
conf. call on this topic " lesausl says, "Why not?" Lunadyne says, "What
would be the nature of the conf call?" Chard says, "andromud" Scottyg says,
"Thanks!" Lunadyne says, "Also, where do we stand with regards to a space
distribution list for press releases and whatnot?" Chard says, "opt-in"
Lunadyne says, "No, I mean like Space News, Astronomy Magazine, Cosmic Log,
JBIS, et al." Chard says, "add a note to the annual account email that
allows for password reset" Chard says, "email reminder" Lunadyne says, "I'd
like to have a list together by early May to distribute a Cislunar
Econosphere press release." Lunadyne says, "As a lead-in to our ISDC
track." Lunadyne says, "Do you think you can have something together by
then, Jason?" Chard says, "when is that date?" Lunadyne says, "Alright,
we've got to move on. I do want to address our little Facebook troll,
Goran. Is there some way to ban him as a user?" Lunadyne says, "Say by May
4th?" dcarson says, "should be a way, I'll look ito it" dcarson says, "I
have reported some of his stuff as spam" Lunadyne says, "I poked around in
the admin section, and see that we do have a banned user, but can't find a
way to ban our little lunar meteorite problem." alanzaldua says, "Unaware
of this issue. Is Goran harassing us on Facebook?" Chard says, "will have
you something put together before then.. perfect" Lunadyne says, "I've
reported it as spam also, but I keep getting e-mails that he's adding stuff
back in the timeline." Lunadyne says, "Sounds good, Jason. This will lay
the groundwork for future publicity efforts." Chard says, "send me their
info" dcarson says, "multiplt posts a say sellilg "lunar" metorites"
alanzaldua says, "I see. " pjbanyai says, "Goran has been blocked from
appearing on our page since all his posts are now caught by a new timeline
spamblocker." Lunadyne says, "I'd still like to get him formally banned."
dcarson says, "I don't see anything in the timeline when I look, tht might
be that I don't see his posts because I removed some" dcarson says, "does
anyone see his posts?" Lunadyne says, "I figured it was way back in the
timeline where I don't have the patience for it to load." lesausl says, "He
is still making posts, but the report by Randy Korotov may have damaged
him." Lunadyne says, "The stuff does look like concrete aggregate." lesausl
says, "He (Mr. Lindfors) needs to prove these lunar meteorites are what he
claims they are - and then explain ewhy he doid not allow them to be
analyzed." dcarson says, "according to the admin panel he posted 7 hours
ago, I don't see it anywhere" pjbanyai says, "All of his posts are hidden
from the timeline. You have to go to the admin panel, use activity log, and
filter by spam." Lunadyne says, "So he's wasting his time?" lesausl says,
"We should make Facebook aware of Mr. Korotev's report and let them decide
if they are being abused." bnault says, "but you can see lots of photos he
has posted...." Lunadyne says, "We need to delete those as well." dcarson
says, "I don't know, I removed a bunch when he first started does that mean
that they aren't reall showing or does it mean I don't get shown them"
Lunadyne says, "I'm unsure about that as well. Which is why I'd like to see
him banned." Strangelv-2 looks for inappropriate photos by this Korotev and
fails to find anthing by Korotev alanzaldua says, "We have seven minutes to
cover 3 more items. " Lunadyne says, "We're running low on time, so the
last thing I wanted to address is membership brochures. I'd like to have
these ready by ISDC." Lunadyne says, "I want shinny glossy brochures like
NSS and Mars Society and Planetary Society and everyone else." dcarson
says, "What happens when a Page admin marks a post as spam?" dcarson says,
"The post is removed from the Page and isn't visible to anyone except the
person who posted it and the poster's friends. Admins of the Page can also
view t..." dcarson says, "The post is removed from the Page and isn't
visible to anyone except the person who posted it and the poster's friends.
Admins of the Page can also view the post by clicking on the Spam filter in
the Page's activity log. " Lunadyne says, "I'm going to be updating the
existing brochure. I'll be looking for input over the next two weeks."
Lunadyne says, "Something sexy and Moon-y." lesausl says, "Korotev is with
the Dept. of Planetary Sciences at Washington Universitry at St. Louis. He
hasd an extended e-mail exchange with Mr. Lindfors and was promised samples
for analysis. they never materialized as promised. Mr. Korotev went on to
describe the materials he DID get. Nonwee of them were lunbar meteorites. "
alanzaldua says, "Assuming you're talking about handouts, yes, shiny and
colorful. I could use them now. I already have the gravity jugs and Q
handouts made. " Lunadyne says, "I also want to update the language, so
please offer suggestions there." Lunadyne says, "Okay, three minutes.
Anything else?" pjbanyai says, "I received Nasa FCU Mailer which mentioned
an enclosed brochure which was not enclosed." alanzaldua says, "I am
working on taking typos out of the 12, 20 question handouts, with Peter's
permission. " Lunadyne says, "We also had a hiccup where the current member
didn't get one but his long-lapsed wife did." alanzaldua says, "Ooops."
Lunadyne says, "The mailer is actually pretty cool." Chard says, "gnite
gents" alanzaldua says, "mailer or handouts? " dcarson says, "both were in
the list we sent, I assume the mailer processer drops duplicate addresses"
pjbanyai says, "I also received a membership form from NSS which does not
mention the Moon Society anywhere in the mailer." Lunadyne says, "That
doesn't surprise me. As we get the volunteer editors up to speed on MMM, I
do want to get some of that content into As astra." Strangelv-2 says,
"There was a push-card sized glossy something. I'm assuming that's what was
meant by the brocure" Lunadyne says, "Al, I meant the glossy insert with
the NASA FCU mailing." alanzaldua says, "Got it. " alanzaldua says, "Let's
talk about handouts at the next meeting, OK?" bnault says, "yes got it
also" Lunadyne says, "okay" alanzaldua says, "Great!" Lunadyne says, "I
think Jason already checked out, do we have a motion to asjourn?" lesausl
says, "I move we adjourn" bnault says, "second" Lunadyne says, "In favor?"
lesausl says, "Yea" lesausl says, "Aye" pjbanyai says, "aye" bnault says,
"aye" alanzaldua says, "aye" Lunadyne says, "So moved. Night everyone!"
dcarson says, "aye" alanzaldua says, "G'night" bnault says, "G'Nite!"
lesausl has disconnected. 
-- End log: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 11:03:34 pm ASI Meeting Server time --