-- Start log: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:07:33 pm ASI Meeting Server time-- 
lesausl says, "Peter, thankx again for the Mercury articles. i enjoyed
them!!" kokhmmm says, "hi Ben" bnault says, "hello everyone" Lunadyne says,
"Alright, let's get a roll call." Lunadyne says, "here" dcarson says,
"here" bnault says, "here" lesausl says, "here" kokhmmm says, "here"
Lunadyne says, "Usual agenda. First up is membership." pjbanyai says,
"According to teamdir his username is U59Mj00u2E. He might want to change
it before hand ;)" Lunadyne says, "Or someone might want to e-mail that to
him." pjbanyai says, "here" Lunadyne says, "CyberTeams says 146 members, so
still flat. " Lunadyne says, "I'm going to try to finalize a membership
brochure to get printed up and take to ISDC." Lunadyne says, "Over the next
week." pjbanyai says, "I am uploading corporate documents like the
Principles for Good Governance and Ethical Practice to
http://www.moonsociety.org/private/leaders/pubs/" kokhmmm says, "Good idea"
Lunadyne says, "Dave Dressler approached me about helping with their 2013
hospitality suite at the ISDC, given the success of my party last year."
Lunadyne says, "Might be another good opportunity for some visibility."
Lunadyne says, "I would like to distribute pins to folks who join at the
ISDC." Lunadyne says, "Other suggestions for upping membership numbers?"
kokhmmm says, "Ken, that is great as San Diego is now a "partner NSS
chapter" with TMS, and Dave Dressler (orig. MIlwaukee) was behind that."
kokhmmm says, "In turn, Dressler will work to give us program space."
kokhmmm says, "I believe Dave Dunlap has already approached him." Lunadyne
says, "Is anyone going to be at any of the other conferences?" kokhmmm
says, "Not likely for me." kokhmmm says, "Talked with Al about San Diego."
dcarson says, "I don't ecpect to be ay any, however ISDC is close enough
that getting together Wednesday night or Thursday is possible if anyone
wants to meet face to face" Lunadyne says, "Let's plan on it, but leave the
specific day open as I still have to see about a hospitality suite."
Lunadyne says, "I am on a much tighter budget this year." Lunadyne says,
"Next up on the agenda is Treasury." dcarson says, "can hit the local
discount place for munchies also if needed for the suite" dcarson says,
"have made progress entering data" Lunadyne says, "Not doing Moon pies
again." dcarson says, "no where near done yet but think I'm on schedule"
Lunadyne says, "As long as we keep plugging away at it. Now that tax day is
behind us, let's see if we can find a CPA." dcarson says, "questions?"
pjbanyai says, "It looks like the largest interest shown by our facebook
insight info points to high interest in kickstarter based projects and
space themed stamps." dcarson says, "am looking" dcarson says, "thats stuff
people can actually do something with" kokhmmm says, "Ken, if we will have
a table at DC, I can give Dave some lightweight compact exhibits to take
along. Just let me know." Lunadyne says, "That's good to hear, Paul. One of
the projects I'm looking at personally is the creation of a capital markets
firm to do crowdsourced equity raising." Lunadyne says, "I'll have some
stuff as well." dcarson says, "the Hermes kickstarter looks like it will
fail, 9 days to go and inly a thied raised" kokhmmm says, "btw, an hour
ago, I sent you all a headsup about a new high power startup with google
involed." Lunadyne says, "IIRC Shackleton Energy had a failed kickstart as
well." dcarson says, "hs 7K of 20K wanted" Lunadyne says, "Part of the
problem is donating is nice and all, but people want a piece of the action
- equity." dcarson says, "if you want them to just chip in they need to be
fans already so they want you to succed, you won't crate fans in the 30-60
days a kickstarter runs" Lunadyne says, "Doesn't mean I don't want a Tip
Jar on our home page once we get the PayPal stuff squared away." Lunadyne
says, "Next on the Agenda is MMM. Peter and I had a quick talk before the
meeting. Peter..." dcarson says, "fans give you stuff like SJGames who
after 8 days have raised 216K of 20K needed for a new edition of one of
their games" kokhmmm says, "I am working on the May issue and the next
issue of the India Quarterly." kokhmmm says, "The good news is that Mark
Lupfer, a member of NSS-Los Angeles (OASIS) has volunteered to produce the
Kindle versions of the MMM Classics." dcarson says, "most are at the level
that gets you a copy at regular retail pricing as a preorder, but some have
paid a lot more" kokhmmm says, "I am producing 1 column reformated versions
in Pages, and he takes these and puts them in Office and further tweaks the
formatting for what Kindle wants. Ben Nault is helping as well." Lunadyne
says, "We also made some progress on the guest-edited MMMs..." dcarson
says, "http://literatureandlatte.com/ program to produce Kindle files
directly" pjbanyai says, "I have renamed our Facebook page's Causes app to
"Donate to the Cause." We can also change the image attached to the app as
well." kokhmmm says, "Beyond that, Mark may take over producing the October
and April MMMs so that I have 4 months off a year - all months in which I
do the India Quarterly, and this should give me more time to start serious
work on the "Book" - Paul's sister Bridget has also offered to help."
Lunadyne says, "The first one, this October, will have a World Space Week
theme." Lunadyne says, "Next April will be a Yuri's Night theme." kokhmmm
says, "The April issue can also focus on the Earth Day relevance of lunar
inittiatives, and on Astronomy Day and the Moon." Lunadyne says, "For those
not familiar with WSW, it is promoted out of the Office of Outer Space
Affairs (OOSA) of the UN." Lunadyne says, "Good idea, Peter. I do encourage
space advocates to get out on Earth Day with their space org clothes on."
kokhmmm says, "MMM has had many articles focused on environmental benefits
of opening the Moon. Check out moonsociety.org/publications/mmm_themes/ -
in particular the two volums "Eden on Luna" ! and 2" kokhmmm says, "By the
way, MMM April issues have usually carried some April Fools Day news items.
Did you all catch those in this latest issue? I have great fun thinking
them up." kokhmmm says, "The AFD World Space News - AFD = April Fools Day"
Lunadyne says, "On the link you just sent around, Peter - it's about
asteroid mining." Lunadyne says, "I remember Diamandis talking about the
first trillionaire being made in space, once we tapped the resources of the
asteroids." Lunadyne says, "Back when I was at ISU." kokhmmm says, "Ken,
that address should call up a page listing several theme issues of which
"asteroids" is but one of several listed" pjbanyai says, "Some Tools and
Resources to aid in preparing for Kindle publishing are at
https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/help?topicId=A3IWA2TQYMZ5J6."
kokhmmm says, "Oh the google project - yes asteroids" pjbanyai says,
"Kindle Previewer is a tool that emulates how books display on Kindle
devices and applications." Lunadyne says, "Paul, Ben sent that around
earlier. It's okay, but the general consensus seems to be that we need to
get someone on the team a real Kindle to check them out on." kokhmmm says,
"Yes, Mark is using that tool. Ben and Mark Lupfer both have Kindle"
Lunadyne says, "Real Kindles?" kokhmmm says, "Yes, Ken, real Kindles"
bnault says, "Negative, I do not have a real Kindle." kokhmmm says, "I
stand corrected. " Lunadyne says, "I would like to see prices closer to $50
before I commit." kokhmmm says, "I understand that Kindle will only show
our "books" in black, white, and graytones. Will our "books" show in full
color on KIndle Fire?" dcarson says, "my local libraries have kindals to
lend, you might check yours" Lunadyne says, "I'm not religious, but god
bless our local libraries." bnault says, "yes, Kindle Fire will display
MMMs in color, at least the images that are in color..." kokhmmm says,
"Kindle Fire is $200, I believe." Lunadyne says, "Ow!" bnault says,
"Correct." kokhmmm says, "But the original Kindle was close to $500"
Lunadyne says, "IIRC, my Palm Pilot was $200 and the books were free. Could
do other stuff too." kokhmmm says, "Now what would be great if somehow we
could work with Amazon to offer a discount on Kindle to those who buy the
MMM Classic books." kokhmmm says, "Just dreaming" Lunadyne says, "I've
always liked the idea of a LunaKindle, stuffed with MMMs and Moon-reference
books, plus some fiction to boot." kokhmmm says, "I wonder if Apogge Books
has any of their publications on Kindle." Lunadyne says, "Haven't heard
much from Apogee of late." bnault says, "Last I checked, no (re: Apogee)"
Lunadyne says, "Maybe they're buckling down and converting everything."
Lunadyne says, "Anything else on MMM/Kindle?" kokhmmm says, "Not from me."
Lunadyne says, "Just got a weird e-mail: "The e-mail address associated
with your account has been changed. The old address was
vice-president@moonsociety.org. The new address is
The.Moon.Society@moonsociety.info."" Lunadyne says, "this from
account-update@amazon.com" pjbanyai says, "I will send everyone the access
info for our Amazon account. I changed the username/email." dcarson says,
"seems funny" bnault says, "ken, it is spam" bnault says, "moonsociety.info
belongs to an outfit called Dreamhost..." Strangelv-3 looks at Ben and Paul
Strangelv-3 says, "So we have a Dreamhost account set up finally?" pjbanyai
says, "moonsociety.info is me" Strangelv-3 cheers loudly. Strangelv-3 says,
"Is this with the nonprofit bonus?" Lunadyne says, "Oh that's a relief.
This is our non-CyberTeams e-mail setup, right?" Strangelv-3 says, "or it
will be gaining the nonprofit bonus?" pjbanyai says, "I have not setup the
nonprofit account yet." kokhmmm says, "Ken, I got that email also. Perhaps
we all did." Lunadyne says, "Or is this where we wrestle back the Amazon
account from Charles' setup?" pjbanyai says, "Have mentioned
moonsociety.info many times in the past as a transitional google step. "
Strangelv-3 doesn't see one but may have never been part of the legacy
system in qestion kokhmmm says, "Sounds like a great idea, Paul." kokhmmm
says, "Before the evening is out we need to touch on the upcoming Moon
Socieety elections" Lunadyne says, "I know Paul, but the myriad of web
assets can get confusing. That's why I keep asking for a handbook of web
assets and the respective U/Ns and P/Ws." kokhmmm says, "It is essential to
share that info, imho" Lunadyne says, "Next on the agenda is ISDC. I've
pretty much nailed down the content with Dave Dunlop." pjbanyai says, "any
email to The.Moon.Society@moonsociety.info, TheMoonSociety@moonsociety.info,
The.Moon.Society@moonsociety.info, Moon.Society@moonsociety.info, and
MoonSociety@moonsociety.info will automatically forward to the Management
Committee." Lunadyne says, "Hour 1: Ken's "Introduction to Cislunar Space",
John Cserep "Mining the Moon from L1"" Lunadyne says, "Hour 2: Dave's
track: Jim Keravala "Mining the Lunar Poles", Rene Laufer "Small Sats to
L4/L5/Dustclouds", and Kyle Branden "Lunar Lander"" Lunadyne says, "Hour
3&4: Student Presentation #1, GLXP, Student Presentation #2, John
Strickland "Cislunar Transport", Student Presentation #3, Dave Smith,
GRAIL." Strangelv-3 says, "Are we still on in the late afternoon after
everyone's gotten bored and left?" Lunadyne says, "Yes" Lunadyne says, "It
looks like the 4-hour tracks run from 2-6." Strangelv-3 says, "Has anything
appeared before 14:00?" Lunadyne says, "Given that lunch is scheduled from
12-2." Lunadyne says, "The big issue is of course that people start heading
home on Sunday afternoon." Strangelv-3 says, "Create a bunch of tabloid or
larger sized posters and cover the venue with them?" kokhmmm says, "Many
will leave on Monday" pjbanyai says, "I am placing a spreadsheet with all
the passwords that I know at
http://www.moonsociety.org/private/board/corporate-documents/. Should be
uploaded by tonight. It might be in several formats and will of course only
be the beginning of collecting all that info into one place." Lunadyne
says, "We're not supposed to talk about that on the NSS telecons. "
Lunadyne says, "Thanks Paul. That's a significant step in getting our hands
around all of the web stuff." Strangelv-3 says, "Paul: are you the one to
forward the wiki password info to? Should I see about having Mike add you
to his account?" dcarson says, "I have a text file of account info, email
tha tto you?" Strangelv-3 says, "A lot of the wiki info has changed
recently" Lunadyne says, "Some will leave on Monday, but the exodus begins
Sunday after lunch. This is known by conference chairs." Lunadyne says, "It
sucks, so I tried to have my Sunday and Monday content focused on being of
interest to local folks." Strangelv-3 says, "ADvertize the time slot for
the lunar track so that people expect it and know what time frame it's
during? Present it like it's teh main thing they'll want to be there to
see?" kokhmmm says, "Could we have a sign-up sheet on our table for those
interested in our talks but who need to leave before hand, so we can send
them info?" Lunadyne says, "Agreed James. Once we get all of the
confirmations I do want to do a press release on it." Lunadyne says,
"Peter, we'll have to see what the layout is." Strangelv-3 tries to hijack
a telepresence robot to sign in on the sheet Sunday morning Lunadyne says,
"Peter, I'll forward the track outline so we can have that in the May MMM."
Lunadyne says, "So I think we're in good shape there. Comments?" kokhmmm
says, "Good idea (track in MMM #2550" kokhmmm says, "Oopa, deop that zero,
I'd need to stay aorund a few centuries!" Strangelv-3 says, "Sounds like a
good idea" Strangelv-3 says, "Admittedly by #2550 I should hope that the
nature of the magazine will have shifted" pjbanyai says, "You can either
send the info to me or edit the spreadsheet yourself after I have uploaded
it. By the way Peter the CafePress account info you sent me was for an
account with only 1 store. The Apollo Moon Party" kokhmmm says, "Yes, to
the moon of Alpha Centauri A3" Strangelv-3 says, "So we need to bug Michael
EMalling?" Strangelv-3 says, "Mealling" pjbanyai says, "or someone else. I
looked in MMM archives and found the earliest mention of the cafepress
store by Greg." Strangelv-3 says, "If it's the same one with Sim 1, that
was after Greg was mostly inactive" kokhmmm says, "Mealling set it up. I
set up the second store but do not remember my access codes" Strangelv-3
says, "although it's possibel he might have been teh one to set it up --
Michael should hopefulyl have the login info if none of the rest of us do"
Strangelv-3 says, "Paul, what's your email again?" kokhmmm says, "He
(mealing) sent it to me. But I had misplaced it." dcarson says, "I have one
with a mealing edress but the login doesn't work" kokhmmm says, "Stll need
to touch on elections tonight" pjbanyai says, "
vice-president@moonsociety.org which forwards to pjbanyai@gmail.com."
Lunadyne says, "That we do. Peter made some progress in that regard..."
kokhmmm says, "On the elections - Ken and I are up for election for full
2-year terms" kokhmmm says, "Ben, Bryce, and Jason are not up till next
year" Lunadyne says, "Leadership indicated last week that they are willing
to have me back for another 2 years." Lunadyne says, "Last time." kokhmmm
says, "That means that for an election secretary, we can pick from Ben,
Bryce, Jason, Paul and Dana as they are not up" pjbanyai says, "I thought
Ben was up this year?" kokhmmm says, "That leaves two vacancies on the
Board (Fred Hills, Ron Brooks) with only one candidate: Al Anzaldua. I have
been trying to find another candidate for the board. Some show of interest
from Mike Mackowski an active member of our PHOenix chapter." kokhmmm says,
"Does any one have any other potential director names?" bnault says, "when
do terms begin and expire?" kokhmmm says, "I can reuse your former
candidate statements. I will email each of you running for reelection your
last candidate statement for tweaking should you wnat to change, or edit
it. Need to run them in the May issue." Lunadyne says, "I'd like to get Jim
Keravala from Shackleton Energy on the BoD, but the schmuck hasn't even
joined yet. I'm going to bug him at ISDC." kokhmmm says, "Ben the term is
for 2 years" kokhmmm says, "No term limits" Lunadyne says, "Even for
president? (heh, heh, heh)" kokhmmm says, "Ken ia hW mwmvwe?" bnault says,
"terms begin Aug 1st, yes?" Lunadyne says, "Not yet." Lunadyne says, "Or is
it Sep 1?" kokhmmm says, "Has to be a membeer for one full year as of the
election date which is August 1st coming up." kokhmmm says, "August 1st,
Ben" Lunadyne says, "Oh, Jim will be for next year." kokhmmm says, "Or the
following Wednesday" kokhmmm says, "Ken, we can always "appoint" someone to
the Board for the balance of a current open term." kokhmmm says, "By the
way, when is the last time anyone has heard from Jason?" Lunadyne says, "He
was here last meeting, but he has homework so I think he's playing hhoky."
Strangelv-3 almost sends to the moonsociety email, then remembers the
milter filter delay Strangelv-3 says, "email is named Entries for the
spreadsheet -- standby" dcarson says, "mentioned really long hours the
other ay on the moo" kokhmmm says, "That was the meeting I missed because I
was at my cottage" Strangelv-3 forgot to send Jason a nagging text message
Strangelv-3 says, "Jason was on in the MOO a day or two ago" kokhmmm says,
"It is unfortunate that Jason's job keeps him so busy as he has a lot of
great ideas" pjbanyai says, "Peter according to the bylaws the Secretary
"In cooperation with the Vice President, monitor mail votes of the Board of
Directors or the Membership, in accordance with the document "Rules for
Mail Votes"." I beleive this provision is so that an election containing
the Secretary is still kept fair. " Strangelv-3 is having technical
difficulties and doesn't know if the email has been sent yet kokhmmm says,
"Actually, Paul, our practice has been from the gitgo to appoint an
elections secretary from among those not up for reelection, with all email
ballots to be sent to him/her at elections-secretary@moonsociety,org"
Lunadyne says, "I do like disinterested third parties." Strangelv-3 seems
to remember there being at least one occasion where the secretary handled
the election. It was Amy. Strangelv-3 hasn't heard from Amy for awhile
kokhmmm says, "What you found, Paul, is about mail votes of board members -
and we have never had any. Always voting in the ASI-MOO environment."
pjbanyai says, "Hmmm.. Might be time to look into some Bylaw edits."
Lunadyne says, "Amy? A girl?" Strangelv-3 says, "With a Ph D. After she got
her doctorate and a husband she sort of dropped out" kokhmmm says, "If you
fins anything in the bylaws needing attention, get with Scotty who has been
the author of all revisions." Strangelv-3 says, "She got too busy with
classes" kokhmmm says, "Yes, Ken, very capable, but overwhelmed by her
university career." Lunadyne says, "I like girls. We should have more of
them around." Strangelv-3 says, "Anotherl one we used to have was Rhoda,
but she dropped out of everything after retiring" Strangelv-3 says,
"Have'nt hard from her for awhile either" kokhmmm says, "Amy McGovern (now
has a new married name - U Oklahoma irrc)" Strangelv-3 says, "Nancy Brasket
was never involved in the MOO. She was also a militia admiral. She's also
deceased, unfortunately" kokhmmm says, "There was also Rhoda Bryant, and
several others, especially in the ASI days." Strangelv-3 says, "Ther's Rose
Dieteman, who has never held elective office in the society. She's one of
the MOO regulars" Strangelv-3 says, "and dhas been for close to a decade"
Lunadyne says, "I do worry about a 'Good Ole Boy Club' appearance. "
kokhmmm says, "Candace Bartelson (ne Dicks irrc) wa a dynamo also deceased.
tragic." Scottyg has arrived. kokhmmm says, "Greetings Scotty" Lunadyne
says, "Hey Scotty!" Scottyg says, "Hi all!" pjbanyai says, "Hi Scotty"
kokhmmm says, "Scotty, we are short a Board member candidate in the
upcoming election" Strangelv-3 says, "Rose also set up the Moon Society
einstein@home group and heads an attempt at marketing the society through
an online game called Ikariam that can be too much of a time sink for me to
want to recommend it to this group" kokhmmm says, "Just for your info - not
pushing" Scottyg says, "Sorry to be late. A family get-together kept me
away." Lunadyne says, "I hope the missus is doing well." Scottyg says,
"She's doing fine Ken. Almost back to normal." Strangelv-3 still doesn't
know if the email he sent to Paul made it. Still having technical
difficulties Scottyg says, "Going to therapy to build her strength up."
Strangelv-3 is glad to hear this Lunadyne says, "Any chance we'll see you
at Moon Day this year?" Strangelv-3 needs a ride pjbanyai says, "Rosalie A
Dieteman's membership expired 2007. I don't know why she still has access
to the Moo." Scottyg says, "She just got back from a 5 day trip to Michigan
so that should indicate how she's doing." Scottyg says, "There's a fairly
good chance of that Ken. What's the date?" kokhmmm says, "Moo access does
not expire with membership, irrc" Strangelv-3 says, "She had it already.
She was involved with MoonSims and I believe is the wizerd of the moonsims
moo" kokhmmm says, "There are quite a few ex members who are still active
on the MOO" Lunadyne says, "We need to get them signed back up." pjbanyai
says, "Wow we actually have something which survives a lapse in membership
:-)" Strangelv-3 says, "Maybe we should make some things systematically
survive it so that we have an avenue to bug them about renewing" Lunadyne
says, "Just not MMM." Strangelv-3 says, "rather than forgetting about us
completely" kokhmmm says, "I think it is good that we are still "in touch"
with these former members this way. Sometimes we even get some work out of
them." pjbanyai says, "If only we could use the MOO to help update a user's
contact info." Strangelv-3 says, "How about buggitng them for it. 8)"
kokhmmm says, "I don't know how you would enforce this, but requiring
expiree's database entry to be up to date to maintain MOO access." pjbanyai
says, "If we could add a facebook app link to teamdir then current facebook
info could auto update our database." Lunadyne says, "I have no idea how
you'd code something like that." Strangelv-3 admits that reaching Randall
in the MOO is often difficult kokhmmm says, "The situation now is that out
of 1660 entries, we have only 500 valid email addresses." Scottyg says,
"I'm not sure if an expired member's login to Team Director still works."
Lunadyne says, "Okay, times running low. Any other time critical items, or
just continue chatting about web stuff?" kokhmmm says, "Scotty, we'd have
to find someone to test that." Scottyg says, "So he might be locked out of
updating his information." pjbanyai says, "A lot of websites are setting up
those kind of links so they dont lose contact with members. A teamdir
members login does not work, however it could be possible to login with
facebook and be able to update info." kokhmmm says, "Randal Severy is
expried and you can be damn sure he still has access to everything."
Strangelv-3 says, "Need someone to handle lapsed members' updates?"
Strangelv-3 says, "He's the exception by definition" Scottyg says, "I also
have ways to make end runs on a variety of things because I have a system
login." kokhmmm says, "How is Randall' ssituation these days? Amy better!"
Strangelv-3 says, "All i know is busy" Scottyg says, "I really don't know
Peter. Haven't chatted with him in quite a while." Strangelv-3 says, "Is it
safe to say that it's no longer the consensus here that people should be
severed from everythinfg the instant their memberships expire?L" kokhmmm
says, "I will say that any time I have a question related to WSD, he
answers me right away." Strangelv-3 says, "These policies came from stern
board decisions of teh past that others can relay in far better detail than
I" kokhmmm says, "For you newcomers, Randall Severy created our WSD and
Team Director software and hosts our website complex gratis. He was a
founding membeer of the Lunar Resoures Company which was behind the Artemsi
Project and free hosts NSS, the Mars Society and other space websites."
Lunadyne says, "With the caveat that we state we use WSD." pjbanyai says,
"It causes to many problems and infact interfers with our affliliation with
NSS. Current NSS members were supposed to be able to join in with select
teams. Randall never setup the system to manage complex relationships like
afiliates." kokhmmm says, "Time to say adieu!" Strangelv-3 says, "Several
years ago, when trying to come up with a web bammter for the Moon Society,
one of the variants Michael Mealling came up with had a pdhoto of Randall
and called it the Randall Society. That's how central he was for a long
time" Scottyg says, "Paul, people can be added to teams even if they are
not members by a Team Director admin user." kokhmmm says, "I need to log
off. " Strangelv-3 says, "They're no longer instantly evicted form the
teams at midnight?" Strangelv-3 waves at kokhmmm. kokhmmm says, "Good night
all!" kokhmmm has disconnected. Lunadyne says, "It's 10pm, so is there a
formal motion to adjourn?" Strangelv-3 says, "I remtember when that feature
was being put in..." Strangelv-3 still wonders if Paiul has recieved the
email pjbanyai says, "Nope" lesausl says, "I move we adjourn" bnault says,
"second" Lunadyne says, "In favor?" lesausl says, "aye" bnault says, "aye"
Scottyg says, "aye" dcarson says, "aye" pjbanyai says, "aye" Lunadyne says,
"So moved. The room remains open for continued discussion." Strangelv-3
says, "Does anyone remember what things currently have membership-end
shutoffs?" bnault says, "Good night all!" bnault has disconnected.
Strangelv-3 says, "..and after we have a list of those, does anyone know
enough to find and disable them after we make a motion to do so?"
Strangelv-3's email is still having trouble. He may need to look at
dreamhoststatus.com lesausl has disconnected. Scottyg says, "James, my
understanding of Team Director is that a member's access is disabled at the
time his membership expires. (A one-time event.)" The housekeeper arrives
to cart kokhmmm off to bed. Scottyg says, "But I've not run tests to verify
that." Strangelv-3 says, "When I was helplessly unable to renew my
membership, Charles repeatedly added me to the newly created moon society
list that was supposed to replace artemis list" Scottyg says, "We can also
create new member classes." Strangelv-3 says, "I was always promptly
removed at around midnight" Strangelv-3 says, "That's a thought -- change
the member's status to a different type depending on their dues status?"
The housekeeper arrives to cart bnault off to bed. pjbanyai says, "I beleve
Sean Moss is also having trouble renewing. Did he send you an email about
that Scotty?" The housekeeper arrives to cart lesausl off to bed. Scottyg
says, "But some features like that may require programming changes. I would
have to consult with Randall on things like that." pjbanyai says,
"Correction Shaun Moss" Scottyg says, "I haven't received any communication
from Sean." Scottyg says, "Shaun." Strangelv-3 says, "My understanding is
that the decision to exclude expired members is why the moon society email
list failed" pjbanyai says, "I know he posted about it at a previous town
hall meeting." Strangelv-3 says, "my email is working again" Strangelv-3
says, "standby" pjbanyai says, "At least one expired is still a member of
the Leadership email list. Pradeep Mohandes' membership expired 2010. As a
leader of our India Affiliate he should be a full member of the team. Was
his email added back after his membership expired?" pjbanyai really wishes
teamdir recognized affiliate membership Strangelv-3 says, "sent"
Strangelv-3 says, "We may have voted to make him a member. I can't remember
clearly" Strangelv-3 says, "There was at least discussion" pjbanyai says,
"James I received your email." Strangelv-3 says, "Questions?" pjbanyai
says, "No questions at the moment." pjbanyai wonders if Ron would still
have retired if we added all the wikis as prominent projects. Strangelv-3
says, "Ron?" Strangelv-3 tries to remember someone he has 6filed away as
Ron pjbanyai says, "Ron Brooks is apparently leaving his directorship over
some issue with wiki support." Strangelv-3: ! Strangelv-3 says, "What
specifics or location with them can you remember?" Strangelv-3 tries to
remember Brooks1 login Strangelv-3 says, "Is it something i could hase done
better? They were, after all, something I was the one who got started.
Admittedly, I was't the firstto try, and Mike has had possibly more to do
with the execution than I did" Strangelv-3 says, "Dana was also heavily
involved at thte start, especially when we were still tyring to get at
least some of it up and running on pb7" Strangelv-3 tries to think of where
to look for Brooks' email address pjbanyai says, "ronb22" pjbanyai says, "I
do not know the specifics. According to Ken "Something happened with the
Moon encyclopedia project, and he was underwhelmed by our less than
enthusiastic response." I think it had something to do with a low amount of
discussion on the renewal of the lunarpedia.com, lunarpedia.info, and
lunarpedia.net domain names." pjbanyai says, "The last meeting he attended
was 254 2-15-12 on the recorder." Strangelv-3 says, "The moo lists
vince22@netzero.net" pjbanyai says, "Yes that is his email. Looking at my
mushclient log it looks like Ron is "presently acting as Editor-in -Chief
with Spring Pub. in writing a Lunar Science Encyclopedia"" Strangelv-3
hmms. Strangelv-3 says, "my email is sent. I might have written it a little
differently if I'd lookeid in here before hitting 'send'" pjbanyai says,
"Ouch. Yet maybe we can still forge a peace between possibly rival lunar
encyclopedias." Strangelv-3 says, "Ours is public domain. He can raid ours
at will" Strangelv-3 says, "Something I've been wanting to do from the
start but have been unable to get back to making progress on:" pjbanyai
says, "His will be "two volumes (1,000+ pages)involving researchers from
around the world."" Strangelv-3 hits an arrow key and wipes out what he was
typing. He starts over\ Strangelv-3 says, "A script -- it's named
Autostub1; descendants of it have created articles on chemical elements,
dictionary entries, US Presidents starting with Peyton Randolph, and county
parties in about 4 different states so far" Strangelv-3 says, "The
original's purpose is to start with one (or more) public domain databases"
Strangelv-3 says, "then spit out articles on featurres, regions, and the
entire globe, all linked together, and with images/maps generated from a
visual set" Strangelv-3 says, "After adding 10,000+ articles to
Lunarpedia', I'd then apply it to Marspedia" Strangelv-3 says, "And then to
Exoplatz, onse body at a time" Strangelv-3:
http://www.lunarpedia.org/index.php?title=Gallium
http://www.exodictionary.org/index.php?title=Magnetic_Storm
http://lpedia.org/Libertarian_Party_of_Santa_Clara_County
http://lpedia.org/Nathaniel_Gorham
Strangelv-3 <http://lpedia.org/Nathaniel_GorhamStrangelv-3> says, "James
Rogers was a major contributorl to Lunarpedia and constructed most of the
database used by Autostub2 in creating the chemical element articles"
Strangelv-3 says, "Anything before I'm afk for a bit? I'll be returning,
but it may not be before you take off" dcarson says, "
http://file770.com/?p=8650 What the Heinleins Told the 1940 Census"
Strangelv-3 says, "Nice. Could you paste that in the commons or should I?"
dcarson says, "oh right we're still here" dcarson says, "I should stop the
recorder" 
-- End log: Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:17:11 am ASI Meeting Server time --